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Shyber

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Oh yeah. Ahsan stood his ground. He's buying a console now (lmao)

Gizmo, answer to your question was SO awesome that it needed to be censored :p
 

Necrokiller

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Oh yeah. Ahsan stood his ground. He's buying a console now
Haha really? I know he was 'thinking' of buying a console... you guys did a good job at hitting the last nail in the coffin...but saldy I think hes going for Xbox 360. (which doesn't make much sense for someone who wouldn't discontinue PC gaming)
 

Shyber

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On a personal note, I think the discussions were neutral enough. We discussed the plus points and discussed why it's on a downward trend and also speculated that how PC gaming will rise again. Did anyone notice how we conveniently missed out on console exclusives, their names and comparisons with "Stalker"? (lmao)

Thing was to put PC gaming into perspective. I suppose we did that to a degree.
 

Necrokiller

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And I bet most of those exclusives would be coming from Sony's side. But Shyber, STALKER is an amazing and VERY underrated title. I thought you liked atmospheric games. Maybe not a platform seller, but I can't name any console exclusive other than LBP, MGS4, Uncharted, GOW3 or maybe Halo (if you're a fanatic). (I didn't mention KZ2 coz its all graphics, gameplay is great but nothing revolutionary in the genre)

But yeah.. all pros and cons were discussed.. which made this podcast really successful.
 

Shyber

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No actually, you're ignoring stuff like GeOW2, Fable2, Final Fantasies, Ninja Gaidens, Tekken, Ace Combat, Conviction, Alan Wake, some great XBLA/PSN games, etc too easily.
 

Necrokiller

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They are not console sellers for me atleast... I wouldn't buy a console solely for any of those games (except Tekken). Im ignoring Xbox titles coz most of them are available on the PC as well. As for GeOW2, well the original Crysis/Warhead won't be re-made for the consoles so they are still exclusives right? But console gamers consider Crysis a lost exclusive just coz a sequel is being developed for em. And Braid is still on the PC, hell, even a Mac.

Point being, based on exclusivity, a PC gamer looking to buy a console would be more pushed to buy a PS3, not X360.
 
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That BG Music really sucks big time. My head started pounding...cant listen the rest...
will listen rest in evening...
Please turn BG music off when discussion starts or take it to lowest level volume.it was unprofessional.
 

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Point being, based on exclusivity, a PC gamer looking to buy a console would be more pushed to buy a PS3, not X360.
Well in my case, a PC gamer who was going for an upgrade bought a 360 instead :p

And thanks for telling me that Final Fantasy is not a system seller for ya. Told me a lot of things that I'll keep in mind when arguing with ya <_<
 

Necrokiller

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Well in my case, a PC gamer who was going for an upgrade bought a 360 instead :p
Uhhh...coz you already had a PS3. And who said it was a great move on your part? :p

And thanks for telling me that Final Fantasy is not a system seller for ya. Told me a lot of things that I'll keep in mind when arguing with ya <_<
It has a HUGE fan following...just like MGS4. So I understand the craze for it. Its not the first time im mentioning im not a fan of the series. Infact you didn't like my 'Ive never been a fan of FF" post in some thread long ago. I just don't have the patience for most RPGs. (shenmue and Mass Effect are an exception though)
 
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Ahsan did very well. Odds were stacked against him but he still conveyed his points :wink2:

I loved it how Shyber and Ahsan shoved aside Chandoo's point about cost and he (Chandoo) didn't have anything else to say :lol:
Good job guys ;)
 

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Ok Few things to Mention you guys again did great job...
This time turn to turn talking was good enough...
But the equipment was not good this time... alot of distortion...

And In the last what happened to you guys why you went Vulgar, That Thingy thing was too damn thing, and who was that selling underwears and bunyons there... There must be some PODCAST censorship board there putting TEEEEEEEEEEN TEEEEEEEN on those coments..

Ok guys best of luck for next episode.
 

Black Basara

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Guys amazing podcast, more about content instead of chit, chat here and there in the last one. Just a small suggestion the podcast should be about 30minutes and i was glad that you guys concentrated on one topic so i expect you to do in next episode aswell IMO. Other that great work guys. Keep it up.
 

Gizmo

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The arguementing(As pronounced by ubaid bhai:p) about PC VS console Gaming were good but maybe next time you guys should do some other topic but please don't go for The PS3 VS 360 thing,We all know how it's gonna turn out.

But really the first 35 minutes of the podcast consisted of you guys pointing out the obvious.
 

Sire Ahsan

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Oh yeah. Ahsan stood his ground. He's buying a console now
"Sir Ahsan has converted his loyalty" - bottom line
(which doesn't make much sense for someone who wouldn't discontinue PC gaming)
Well ... still dont have a console. And even if I do ... the PC will stay first for the exact reasons Ive stated in the podcast ... RTS and FPS. I get a X360 for the full time and timed exclusives ... best of both worlds.

And necro, some exclusives as well as timed exclusives of teh X360 are something I really want to play. Im a petrol head so Forza 3 and PGR4 and Midnight Club LA, Medieval Fantasy RPG freak so I need Fable 2 and Fable 3 as well (im sure il be spending half my X360 game time on these two, much like the 100+ hours on oblivion ive spent) ... and getting the timed exclusives ... ESPECIALLY GTA ...

Id never dump the PC. FPS + RTS are something ive been on since the times of the original Doom and Wolfenstien, Red Alert and Tiberium ... so this PC is staying ... for good. Oh and ... online gaming :) Oh and PS3 = expaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaansive!
 

Necrokiller

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And necro, some exclusives as well as timed exclusives of teh X360 are something I really want to play. Im a petrol head so Forza 3 and PGR4 and Midnight Club LA, Medieval Fantasy RPG freak so I need Fable 2 and Fable 3 as well (im sure il be spending half my X360 game time on these two, much like the 100+ hours on oblivion ive spent) ... and getting the timed exclusives ... ESPECIALLY GTA ...
Well you're going for the games you like... and not just because others said it has good exclusives that you might wana try out or something :p So you made a good decision on your part.
 

BeLoShI

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Havent listened to it on whole was sitting in the offices and got a little time off so listened around 15 minutes so far it was really well managed and a very good presentation from the previous. Will comment on whole later on Chandoo Part , Sir Ahsan points and Shybers POVs. :)

Kudos to u guys.
 

kensid

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O my they took Captain PC and totally brainwashed him lol ..O well if u cant beat them join them :tongue Out:..i guess...
but seriously guys this podcast was great...huge improvement over the first one..me like.
 

Sire Ahsan

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Well you're going for the games you like... and not just because others said it has good exclusives that you might wana try out or something So you made a good decision on your part.
What I really want are the racing games. Ever since EA fucked the epic NFS series ... I feel incomplete on my gaming front! Something with free roam and hot exotics ... I r must hav!
 
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