MULTI PC or PS4?

[MegamanEXE]

No need to be biased, either NVIDIA or AMD will work.

Also. RAJNI bhai, khairiat? I see you didn't make your text bold. That worries me. :/

 

[hasanJ]

How is it that 3ghz of AMD is lower in performance than 3ghz of intel? even with the same number of cores and cache memory.. how can that be possible??

And then how is it [if that's the case] that for example my i5-750 at 4.4ghz would be slow than a 'newer' generation i5 with the same number of cores [4] and less cache than my i5-750..

this has me confused.

Clock speed cannot be used as a comparison of speeds across two different processors

Intel Processors can execute more instructions per clock cycle than equivalent AMD Processors
Also Intel Cores are significantly faster than AMD to the point that HT Enabled 4 Cores of i7 beat out 8 Cores of AMD in 99% cases despite having lower clock speeds

Ur i5 750 is First Generation Core i Series
2nd Generation added ~30% Performance increase
3rd Generation added ~10% and 4th Generation added another 10%

For the GPU as CT has suggested GTX780 is an excellent option and should see a price cut in a few weeks time
On the AMD front the R9 290X is currently the price/performance king at 550$ Price but it runs 95C and makes a lot of noise as per reviews

 

[Counter6]

PC because PS4 will be old in less than year.

 

[maryfarrukh]

I am glad to see that we are having a healthy debate here. I'll hop in.

It is an interesting question. On one side, you can get a PS4 for now, and a 6.5k game every month or so. That makes it around 78k a year for 12 games. 12 games might be a little too much so let's stick to 8 games per year for now, that is 52k.

Now, for PC, you can get a R9 280X/770/780 for now, which will cost around the same as the initial buying of the PS4. Almost all the games can be pirated, except for multi-player ones of course. Let's say we will buy 2 games per year. That is 13k. Which leaves us with somthing like 39k more than what we'll have if we go for PS4.

Now this 39k can be spent on a nice SSD and some other stuff, or a new, upgraded processor and motherboard. Or, it can come in handy in other things, more personal, non-gaming stuff.

At the end, it comes down to preference. PC has not and will not get many of the good games exclusive to consoles, PS4 especially. PC doesn't have many exclusives but for games that are on both platforms, PC will no doubt be superior in almost every single way.

 

[Nauman 360]

Clock speed cannot be used as a comparison of speeds across two different processors

Intel Processors can execute more instructions per clock cycle than equivalent AMD Processors
Also Intel Cores are significantly faster than AMD to the point that HT Enabled 4 Cores of i7 beat out 8 Cores of AMD in 99% cases despite having lower clock speeds

Ur i5 750 is First Generation Core i Series
2nd Generation added ~30% Performance increase
3rd Generation added ~10% and 4th Generation added another 10%

For the GPU as CT has suggested GTX780 is an excellent option and should see a price cut in a few weeks time
On the AMD front the R9 290X is currently the price/performance king at 550$ Price but it runs 95C and makes a lot of noise as per reviews

So to REALLY compare two processor performances I should be looking at ''instructions per clock cycle'' thingy? I mean I knew clock speed wasn't the only thing, there was of course the number of cores and cache memory, but it seems those are not able to tell the whole story either.. so i'll try and look up what a clock cycle is.

also you said that 2nd generation has ~30% performance increase over the first generation. do you mean that with the same ghz and cache memory and number of cores.. a sandy bridge processor would be about 30% faster in raw performance compared to my Lynnfield? If so what causes the difference ? is it the ''instructions per clock cycle'' as well here ? or something else?

thanks for your help mate.

 

[Nauman 360]

also would it be worth it upgrading to i5 2550 [which has 6 mb L3 cache compared to my 8mb i5 750] and buying a mobo for it.. or should I go for something even better ? im not sure of the prices of compatible motherboards for different generations. and I won't be going for i7s as i've heard that hyperthreading is useless for gaming because games need physical cores.

 

[hasanJ]

So to REALLY compare two processor performances I should be looking at ''instructions per clock cycle'' thingy? I mean I knew clock speed wasn't the only thing, there was of course the number of cores and cache memory, but it seems those are not able to tell the whole story either.. so i'll try and look up what a clock cycle is.

No dont concern urself with instructions per clock cycle
Simply refer to Benchmarks from credible review sources like tomshardware, guru3D, anandtech, hardwarecancucks etc

also you said that 2nd generation has ~30% performance increase over the first generation. do you mean that with the same ghz and cache memory and number of cores.. a sandy bridge processor would be about 30% faster in raw performance compared to my Lynnfield? If so what causes the difference ? is it the ''instructions per clock cycle'' as well here ? or something else?

thanks for your help mate.

yes 2nd Generation is that much faster but since ur already running i5 750 at 4.4Ghz dont bother with upgrading
Get a fast GPU for Gaming and ur set

 

[MegamanEXE]

Now, for PC, you can get a R9 280X/770/780 for now, which will cost around the same as the initial buying of the PS4. Almost all the games can be pirated, except for multi-player ones of course. Let's say we will buy 2 games per year. That is 13k. Which leaves us with somthing like 39k more than what we'll have if we go for PS4.

Erm, I don't think any PC game costs Rs.6500. Even the mega-latest ones cost nothing more than 4000-4500. Wootkeys is selling Arkham Origins + DLC for Rs.1800. And that released just yesterday :O.

 

[maryfarrukh]

An i5 740 @ 4.4 GHz coupled with a 770/780 will be as good as anything.

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Erm, I don't think any PC game costs Rs.6500. Even the mega-latest ones cost nothing more than 4000-4500. Wootkeys is selling Arkham Origins + DLC for Rs.1800. And that released just yesterday :O.

Yeah well that was just for the sake of comparison

 

[MegamanEXE]

An i5 740 @ 4.4 GHz coupled with a 770/780 will be as good as anything.

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Yeah well that was just for the sake of comparison

You know, by this, we MAY save 4-5000 rupees and 5k rupees actually makes quite a difference while buying hardware.
Heck, you can buy a whole HDD with that kind of money.

 

[crase24]

The gaming performance different between sandy and haswell is less than 5%, maybe even lesser if reviews are to be believed. Your cpu and board are just fine, at the current clock speeds, they will not bottleneck your system performance. I'd say you still have 2 more years worth of usage out of it. I recently upgraded to gtx 760 myself, and after clocking it to 4G gives you a modest boost.

If you don't care about the exclusives, then stick with your current PC a while longer, then build a new one when the time is right.

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Hey there,i dont think so there is negligible difference

Core i3 3rd gen is compared is with i5 760

i3 outperformed i5 1st gen in any aspect

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-750-vs-Intel-Core-i3-3220

I5 3rd gen would be quite faster then i5 1st gen

 

[Cerberus]

one should have both pc and latest gen console

 

[maryfarrukh]

^^ What if they don't have money growing on trees?

 

[Nauman 360]

^^ Good question..
I can't buy both, i'll have to go for one, so tell me what you think of this guys.. im thinking of getting a gtx 770 for now and maybe a lil more ram.. but im not sure if you can just 'add' a third stick.. i have 2 x 2gb corsair xms 2000mhz sticks and the forth slot is blocked by the cpu heatsink so I could only add one more.. but I don't know which one would be compatible into this setup and won't decrease by bus speed..


and then later... maybe in a year.. games would probably be more optimized to use more than 4 cores.. at that time I could get a nice board + i7 3930k + some 16 GB of ram together as a combo on ebay for good price and add another gtx 770 to do sli.

although for the 3930k the board will have to have lga 2011 socket and im not sure of its further upgrade potential.. but I think that setup would last me a reasonable amount of time.. atleast this entire generation.

 

[Cerberus]

^^ What if they don't have money growing on trees?

Then PC it is cheaper with lot of piracy

 

[Behrox]

I second Cerebral Tiger AMD's R9 290 or 290X with your PC will be great plus u said yourself that you are spolied by PC graphics so why would you wanna go for PS4. I'd choose PC anyday of the week

 

[Gizmo]

Wow, a console V PC thread that didn't disintegrate into mindless bickering and fanboyism! I'm proud of you guys. Carry on

My two cents: Get a PS4 IF you can afford to purchase games legitimately, otherwise PC is a good option till the consoles get hacked.

 

[maryfarrukh]

Even a R9 280X will prove to be viable for far more than a year

 

[faraany3k]

Buying consoles atleast for this year and next 6 months is virtually useless, unless you like KILLZONE.

These people are right that PC is considerably cheaper if you are a pirate, but even if you are not new PC games are never expensive then maybe 4k or 3k. Then you have free online. On console you have to pay 5 dollars every month or 60$ for an year to play the multiplayer portion.

 

[MegamanEXE]

Why don't you get rid of the 2 x 2GB RAM and get 2 4 x 4GB or 8 x 8GB. If you can easily afford a GTX770, I don't think 8 or 16GB RAM right now would be a problem for you. i7-3930 would be an overkill but really great in the long run. I don't think you'd regret spending so much cash on that.