[Pakgamers Debate] : The State of the PS3 in Pakistan

hasanJ

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^But generally ppl felt disappointed about it
the biggest blow was FF13 which hit Sony fans hard

Mainly console iz for gaming and the platform which offers better titles will lead the pack
 

Desolator

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^ I fail to see how that answers the question . Besides , exclusives aren't gives PS3 a hard time as far as I'm concerned .
Just look at the line up PS has lost
- Tekken
- FF13
- Devil May Cry
- Soul Caliber(not so sure about this one)
- Burnout
- GTA
- Resident Evil

My point is that piracy does matter but exclusive titles are the ace cards in the deck.
 

CerebralTiger

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^Burnout, Soul Calibur and GTA weren't really exclusives....the GTA series was timed exclusive for the most part....also, hardly any RE game for the PS2 was an exclusive (RE:CV was also on the Dreamcast and RE4 on the Gamecube)....in fact, the GC also had REmake and RE:Zero, making it the definitive console to get for hardcore RE fanatics

You're right about Tekken, DMC, and FF13....these 3 titles were associated with the Playstation brand....so was Ace Combat, which is currently a X360 exclusive....basically, with the exception of a few titles, 3rd party exclusives are now a thing of the past....but while it has lost exclusivity over these titles, look at the exclusive lineup PS has gained/retained:

  • MGS 4
  • LittleBigPlanet
  • Resistance 2
  • Killzone 2
  • Heavy Rain
  • The next game from the 'Shadow of the Colossus' team
  • InFamous
  • GT 5
  • MotorStorm 2
Besides, all of this doesn't matter as far as the Pakistani market is concerned....the majority need a console that runs cheap software....the X360 and Wii are currently the only two applicable candidates, out of which the X360 is the only 'next-gen' console....then, there are people who're wary of the X360's durability issues and wouldn't exactly want their console to die out on them....so it's pretty much up to the consumer's preference....most go for a 360 and enjoy cheap games, yet some prefer the PS3 for its durability and free online play
 
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qaisrani

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Thats a very interesting point that if PS considers us an important portion of the market, they can offer special prices to us and I'm sure there is a possibility that its sales can boost up.

You know I'm also on gamefaqs.com and when at times during discussions, I tell people that I'm from Pakistan they are so much surprised. Even when I'm on LBP or Resistance and while playing online, if I tell them that I am from Pakistan, they are like do pakistani people have video games and I'm like hello there is a huge market here. People are crazy after games.

One last thing, which I'd say that (I know this point has been mentioned earlier) even if pirated Blu-ray are available we won't be able to enjoy the benefit of gaming online so even otherwise we have to purchase original titles and trust me I love to get original titles. Its a huge level of mental satisfaction. However, yeah if Sony offers competitive prices for their games then I'm sure - like I said earlier - that the PS3 will gain a substantial portion of the market here.
 

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I would start by saying what Sony said earlier...."there is no such thing as exclusive anymore", the only exclusives u can expect are the first party games. Console gaming isent wat it used to be a couple of years back , both consoles come with comprehensive OS with online support and features exceeding far beyond the last gen consoles. A console is just not compelete without its online counterpart and i must say that sony has done an excellent in keeping the online service free unlike xbox live. Swallowing a bitter pill and buying a new game for the PS3 is not a bad bargain...you get the original disc with the manual with everything legit + free online gameplay and support..plus it comes on a much better and reliable media.

PS3 is still a much much reliable console then the xbox 360. It comes with a blu ray drive, that means even when the PS3 gets obsolete you can still use the console as a blu ray player to watch movies. Its the cheapest blu ray player on the market. And sony has taken the gaming trend in the right direction with the blu ray drive...its the one thing that microsoft envies. The playstation 3 is still tecnically superior to the 360 both performance wise and functionality wise.

As far as pakistan is concerned, it still depends on the person. If you have cash...you can get a ps3 and buy original games. If you can only spend the cash once...then get a 360, but then...id rather make an investment in the PS3 if ive doubts that my console can choke and die on me anytime....but with the new 360 models out, i dont think it is a problem anymore, and in the end it just comes down to one thing and one thing only....preference.

Personally, i love my PS3 more then my 360. why?....i am not a fan boy, i admit that some xbox360 exclusive titles kick way more ass then Ps3s ....i just prefer sony over microsoft because the gaming experiance on the PS3 feels similar to PS2's with the same controller and all ( yes, i am still tied to my ps2) and the overall gaming experiance on the PS3 just feels better then the xbox360...specially when playing games like MGS4 you realize that this is what actually got you into videogames...and this is what you wanted out of ur console all this time along.

and in refernfce to the topic... Ps3 is doing good, losing exclusives does not mean that the title wont come out on the Ps3...nearly all developers are going multi platform. If PS3 were still a DVD based console...it would be soo last gen...i am happy with the BDs...the ps3 games come region free...which actually makes life easier for us and encourage us to buy original games, because people like me who only buy consoles from abroad would find themselves in one heck of a fix trying to import games.

but on the flip side...this is bad news for the people who cant afford it... but they can always exchange a previously played game for a new one...i guess its back to the Sega genesis days where u had to exchange ur cartridge for rs.50 for a new game...lolz. ... the bad thing about it is that u cant make a library of games like you did with ur ps2.

but jokes apart...gaming is a business...we've just been spoiled by the PS2....thats all that it is.

And after everything said and done...Like i said...it all comes down to preference....both consoles have almost the same games, almost the same price....all it comes down to is "you and your pocket"

i am not here to advocate the PS3...Xbox360 is still an awsome console...i had to get me one too since PS3 is not as great as the PS2...its a fact...and xbox360 is just as good as the PS3. Even with the BD rom and all its gadgets...all it comes down to are the games on the console...thats the only thing that makes it a hit or a flop...in the end its just a gaming console.
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Thats a very interesting point that if PS considers us an important portion of the market, they can offer special prices to us and I'm sure there is a possibility that its sales can boost up.

You know I'm also on gamefaqs.com and when at times during discussions, I tell people that I'm from Pakistan they are so much surprised. Even when I'm on LBP or Resistance and while playing online, if I tell them that I am from Pakistan, they are like do pakistani people have video games and I'm like hello there is a huge market here. People are crazy after games.

One last thing, which I'd say that (I know this point has been mentioned earlier) even if pirated Blu-ray are available we won't be able to enjoy the benefit of gaming online so even otherwise we have to purchase original titles and trust me I love to get original titles. Its a huge level of mental satisfaction. However, yeah if Sony offers competitive prices for their games then I'm sure - like I said earlier - that the PS3 will gain a substantial portion of the market here.

Sony cant offer special prices to us because the games come region free...people will exploit this and order games from here for cheap, and sony will lose money . That is exactly the reason why Xbox360 is region locked...and its left to the developers if they wanna sacrafice that extra portion of profits for the fans then they are happy to make their game region free.....luckyly most developers really consider their fans.....specially developers like UBISOFT and BUNGIE
 
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the one and only reason ps3 took a beating was the inability of being hacked.Though xobx 360 launched a year early it was cheap games that boosted its sales although till now there are questions about its reliablity.Similar is the case with wii. Why wii is outselling both due to next generation game play and cheap games.

Take the instance before xbox 360 price cuts and now particularly in japan xbox 360 is being outsold by ps2.If ps3 would have been hacked it would have been outselling both wii and xbox 360.Imagine if ps2 would have been hackless people would have switched to xbox. There would have been no respect and glory of ps2 in our eyes

Why????

Backwards compatibility would have helped sony alot in gaining market share because many would have bought ps3 altogether which would have provided them cheap next gen gaming and great library of games from ps2

Region free games provide ease of playing on ps3

Reliability---This one would have definitely attracted customers as ps3 and xbox 360 would have been equal in competition

But why there is a strong demand of xbox 360 in our country???

Simply because we are third world country.Everyone here wants cheap cheap cheap.Imagine buying 5 ps3 games costing 15000.Its better to buy 360 for 22000 and buying 5 games or 1000.Thats the reason most of us even me are shying away from ps3 although we love it.

Take for e.g windows why some countrys president i dont remember its name(its in europe) said to billgates that the piracy brought development to their country and he supports it.

So if it was hacked hackers probably would have come with way to play online stealth mode and unban mode like they did with xbox and xbox 360.Ps3 would have retain its glory not only from next gen gaming and exclusive titles but from the respected people payed to ps2
 

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  • MGS 4
  • LittleBigPlanet
  • Resistance 2
  • Killzone 2
  • Heavy Rain
  • The next game from the 'Shadow of the Colossus' team
  • InFamous
  • GT 5
  • MotorStorm 2
Where the hell are Isomniac and Naughty Dog?!? :crying: Shame on you!
These two studios are responsible for 4 of the top 5 (exclusive) games on the PS3.


blackkrystal said:
PS3 is not as great as the PS2...its a fact...and xbox360 is just as good as the PS3.
One of the best statements I've come across. (y)
The only inclination that can be formed towards any console would be 'cos of the exclusives that suits someone's gaming taste and/or the cost of unit game factor.

I have a PS3 now but if I were still in uni/college, I would've had a 360 instead. Right now, since I can afford it, I'm pretty satisfied with what I get. My only dissatisfaction is the price conversion rates, lack of availability of complete library of games at any given instance and no support for Pakistan on PSN.
 

Waqas

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Strictly sticking to the topic at hand and not getting into debate about which console is better or why and sh*t, NO. No I am not satisfied with the state of PS3 in Pakistan and I don't see myself being satisfied in future as well. There are two reasons for that. 1, we are a poor country where 85-90 percent of our population consist of poor folk who are barely surviving in these trying times of recession of global scale, let alone enjoying next-gen hi-def gaming. 2, if it ever does becomes viable for a common man to afford a PS3 as it is (Unhacked/Unmodded), there are these greedya$$ shopkeepers who simply won't cut you a fair deal or even sale the game at its original and default estimated retail price. And these are the problems that I don't see vanishing over night unfortunately.

As much as I'd love to see more and more people enjoying the marvels that are PS3 and Xbox360 and appreciating the true glory and dazzle of these Behmuths, this just ain't gonna happen anytime soon. And this just aggrevates me like anything...

Now before anyone argues about the Xbox360, let me just say that I was refering to Xbox Live and free gaming and demos, friends, community and all that sh*t, which can't be experienced with peace of mind when you are using a modded console, can you? Believe me I've tested the Microsofts' ban-hammer and it doesn't tests good, lolz... :)
 

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Where the hell are Insomniac and Naughty Dog?!? :crying: Shame on you!
These two studios are responsible for 4 of the top 5 (exclusive) games on the PS3.
lol....but I did mention Resistance 2....didn't you notice the Insomniac logo flash before you when you started playing it?....:)

And yeah, I should have included Naughty Dog in that list....don't know how I forgot....:|
 

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I personally think the ps3 is just too expensive even for us here in the uk it retails at £299 prices do need to come down, but as for chipping the ps3 the only way i can see is having a software or patch on the system which enables ripped games and then directly downloading games onto the ps3 hardrive and playing it from there.
 

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PS3 is better in it's present state already because of the Blu-ray Media and the online play . Regardless of what others say that Xbox Live is Better , I personally admire PSN as much as one admires his PS3 . I mean PSN is free and Xbox Live charges you yearly or monthly which is unsuitable for me . Nowadays Online Gaming is the real challenge in Games as far as developers are already concerned . Even if one says the console is expensive I believe that Xbox 360 is much more expensive then PS3 with Go Pro retailing for Rs.39K and 40GB going for rs.35K . The Games have to be expensive because of 50GB Storage in them . So Yeah I like PS3 now and will love it forever Inshallah , even if PS4 comes out
 
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