LG V20 vs Z Force Vs Zuk Z2

[smaaz]

Need advice guys, all of these are available for 20k or less

V20 is Tmobil version
Z force is Verizon
Z2 Zuk is intl

I dont think such devices are bad option for 20k or less, please advise, these are probably kits, but dealer is personal contact and will give the best available unit.
[MENTION=42544]murtaza12[/MENTION] need your advice, or suggest something else, I love new xiaomi phones but looking for something with premium look, power and camera

 

[murtaza12]

Need advice guys, all of these are available for 20k or less

V20 is Tmobil version
Z force is Verizon
Z2 Zuk is intl

I dont think such devices are bad option for 20k or less, please advise, these are probably kits, but dealer is personal contact and will give the best available unit.
[MENTION=42544]murtaza12[/MENTION] need your advice, or suggest something else, I love new xiaomi phones but looking for something with premium look, power and camera

I'd never use an LG, even if I got it for free.
Moto Z series is good, but VZW variants are crap, so don't bother.

The Z2 is the only bearable option out of all three.


If you want something brand new, for exactly 20k, definitely the one I'd suggest is the Redmi 5 Plus. Great phone with great specs and amazing value for money at 20k. [MENTION=138137]RevPK[/MENTION] did a review on it as well, and I think it's a solid phone.

 

[smaaz]

I'd never use an LG, even if I got it for free.
Moto Z series is good, but VZW variants are crap, so don't bother.

The Z2 is the only bearable option out of all three.


If you want something brand new, for exactly 20k, definitely the one I'd suggest is the Redmi 5 Plus. Great phone with great specs and amazing value for money at 20k. [MENTION=138137]RevPK[/MENTION] did a review on it as well, and I think it's a solid phone.

I already have a Mi Max and I love it, dont want another Mi device at the moment, plus camera is a priority.

I know LG have problems in past but whats wrong with V20 ?

 

[WAQAS ADEEM]

Not in list but Moto Z Force will be a good choice. In its competition LG v20 is great.
Don't know why people facing issue in LG, i am using G3 since 3+ years and LG G Pro since 4.5 years and never ever had any issue...even the battery of G pro is never changed since 4.5 years

 

[smaaz]

Not in list but Moto Z Force will be a good choice. In its competition LG v20 is great.
Don't know why people facing issue in LG, i am using G3 since 3+ years and LG G Pro since 4.5 years and never ever had any issue...even the battery of G pro is never changed since 4.5 years

Bhai G Pro is tank of a phone, LG rep was damaged by dreaded G4/V10 bootloop issue. Z force is in the list, suggest some good alternate if you have any in your mind.

 

[WAQAS ADEEM]

Bhai G Pro is tank of a phone, LG rep was damaged by dreaded G4/V10 bootloop issue. Z force is in the list, suggest some good alternate if you have any in your mind.

Dear .... it might have happened with "people's" G4 or v10...i have couple of friends using surprisingly both of these mentioned phones and none of them ever had an issue of any kind with their LG v10 and G4...
And if z force is in list then get it...it's a great phone...or better get z2 force if you got budget.

 

[smaaz]

Dear .... it might have happened with "people's" G4 or v10...i have couple of friends using surprisingly both of these mentioned phones and none of them ever had an issue of any kind with their LG v10 and G4...
And if z force is in list then get it...it's a great phone...or better get z2 force if you got budget.

Yaar actually all amarican kits are refurbished these days, so ill think twice before buying those, any other option in mind ??

 

[mbk99]

Yaar actually all amarican kits are refurbished these days, so ill think twice before buying those, any other option in mind ??

Yeah Motorola Z would be a good option with its nearly stock Android Os. And battery timing would also be great.

I think you should also consider Samsung S6 egde etc American or Korean stock (I think you might be lucky in getting a Korean stock Samsung smartphone which is isn't refurb).

Oh Btw go and check Homeshoping they are offering Japan variant ( "au" or something like that) of Sony Xperia XZ for about 20K I think... it has Flagship camera experience alongside great Android OS and battery timing. Bear in mind this was a flagship Sony device last year I think ... And it would your best option out all 3 aforementioned choice.

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[smaaz]

Yeah Motorola Z would be a good option with its nearly stock Android Os. And battery timing would also be great.

I think you should also consider Samsung S6 egde etc American or Korean stock (I think you might be lucky in getting a Korean stock Samsung smartphone which is isn't refurb).

Oh Btw go and check Homeshoping they are offering Japan variant ( "au" or something like that) of Sony Xperia XZ for about 20K I think... it has Flagship camera experience alongside great Android OS and battery timing. Bear in mind this was a flagship Sony device last year I think ... And it would your best option out all 3 aforementioned choice.

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Man no Japaneese, they are all refurbished and market is flooded with those these days .. Plus they have alot of signal issues

Why would I but S6 its so old when I can get alot newer devices like V20

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[techyrock]

Need advice guys, all of these are available for 20k or less

V20 is Tmobil version
Z force is Verizon
Z2 Zuk is intl

Although you may have your answer already lots of guys shed light on the matter but here's a different perspective for ya

lets start with LG shall we?

• LG V20

A great phone for content creators amazing DAC great video capture

but from your list I fathom you may have come across a refurb V20 (comparing price to ZUK) so stay off of its crap

• Moto Z force

Same goes for Moto (some of them even speak for em selves "Motorola Confidentiality yada yada" on front panel)


as Murtaza Said you are better off with a ZUK Z2


you see the thing is these cheap flagship killer phone unless famous (Oneplus duh!) dont get refurb units that easily and you'll always end up with a more reliable hardware then a refurb unit from a famous brand



But yeah on the Contrary
If you got your hands on the initial original batch of either V20 or Moto Z (Original non refurb) then ZUK Z2 is no match to these phones in terms of Camera,Build,DAC(on V20),Modularity(Z force) and a lot more not to forget the OLED Moto shatter shield panel on Z Force

but its highly unlikely to get hands on one of those original phones even if you do so they will be expensive [USED]

 

[smaaz]

[MENTION=135244]techyrock[/MENTION] man thnks for such a detailed reply.

V20: The one I found had a really blue screen that put me off, using G4 and its colors were blowing V20 away, also it was used with usage marks here and there so I believed it might not be refurbished. But the battery looked fishy as it charged from 17 to 37 while I was standing there with a standard 2 Amp charger.

Z Force: I generally stay away from Verizon phones as they do have signal issues, but for 18k price I was sold although phone was in rough condition. I dont understand Z force is such a tightly packed device how can they refurbish it ??

Zuk Z2: well it wnt out of stock before I could decide.

He also had OP 3T but with dash charger it was for 29k that I didnt have so in short I decided to wait a bit longer. Suggest any other option as I wanted a premium device within 20k budget, and V20 seems to be the best option .. abb kahan se mille ga original that I dont know, I visited Karachi Sadar mobile market and very few had V20s ATT models, it was flooded with Motorolla and Japanese Shiz .

 

[techyrock]

[MENTION=9842]smaaz[/MENTION] don't mention it mate



About V20

The Good

V20 has been my favorite I had V10(International Variant) and DAC makes a huge difference in plugged in music experience no doubt,there were certain instruments in a track the I didnt even notice on other phones I dont know why more companies opt for a proper DAC ditching their current one's Samsung used to have best DAC back in the day even for Nokia Phones Remember N91

Removable Battery and full on sturdiness if you dont count scratches

The Bad
Well the Crappy BS of a IPS panel that LG calls a display is absolute sh** worse color gamut on a flagship phone they always have this bluish/green white's even some of budget phones have better displays, Sure LG was the first one with G3 to jump into QHD game but I think they rushed it so much that we still see it around,Its so disappointing that one of biggest display producers in world offers this crap in their phones ,compared to their IPS their P-OLED is better but still its no match to Sammy's Super AMOLED

The Refurb Market spoiled LG phones and then there is G4 and V10 believe me Note 7 didnt put that much of a dark spot on Samsung the way G4 spoiled LG

as for other options I can only tell knowing what you need

if you prefer UI, Developer Support Perfomance :

Then add some more dough for Oneplus 3T or Pixel

if you prefer Better Camera

Go for

P9 Plus
S7/Edge
V20
Pixel (mostly HDR and post processing but not bad)

Better After market support

S7 or iPhone or any Sammy C/A series phone with decent H/W


Better Display
Samsung Hands Down e.g S7
for IPS opt for iPhone or in my experience in Android HTC flagships have better IPS panels

but then again display's are always lottery even with samsung





This is what I can think of at moment there is much more then that and many other phones with better camera display or any that fit in aforementioned categories

 

[smaaz]

[MENTION=135244]techyrock[/MENTION] bro available to S7 bhi hai in 24k range but same refurb att shit.

So if S7 is refurbished like these amarican kits, means its IP rating is gone ??

Bro for 30k ill go with Note 5 pro brand new rather thn used OP3T

 

[techyrock]

Hmm well no not all S7's out there are refurb kits,you just have to be sure about how to spot a refurb Samsung phone if I had time ill make a proper thread for it as for now if you are interested PM me or Whatsapp me Ill guide through it (Whatsapp info already in marketplace post)