MULTI Help me choose between PS4 and Xbox

Cerberus

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Aslam o Alikum guys

how are you all? remember me :) ?

I am in dilemma of choosing between Ps4 (fat or slim or pro? ) or xbox one (simple, s , x) and I thought whats a better platform to ask than pakgamers where I once fulfilled all my gaming desires.

I have been out of gaming scene for 4 5 years as my pc was burnt down and I didnt build another. So I have exactly no information

which console is better for 1920x1080p gaming
which console has better titles (halo, gear of war is not what I play, uncharted on the other side is my fav)
which console is more value for money
which console has cheaper games
which console has good market of used games
which region should I buy
what is the jailbreak scene
what are current standard prices
Issues related to heating and others I must know
Do they support Youtube, Facebook, skype
Do they come with warranty, and for how much extra

I know thats huge list of queries but I wish to spend on a better thing

thanks in advance for your generous replies.

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Good, no!

PS4 Pro.
-Pro does 1080p
-Pro
-Pro, region doesnt matter! Get the cheapest one you can find!
-Jailbreak possible on firmware 4.05 only! Full hack!
-Pro should currently be at 47 to 48k!
-I think they do support social medias, yeah!
-No warranty req. Useless!

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thank you [MENTION=9361]Radical[/MENTION] ( I remember you :) ) and [MENTION=507]manigamer[/MENTION]
from where to buy and whats the cost for ps4. is ps4 pro hacked as well?
 

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not sure if ps4 pro is hacked too but a ps4 with fw 4.05 is fully hackable atm... generations in lahore is doing hack for 6000rs with four games.

1000rs per extra game or so
They can hack any firmware to 4.05? Or only ps4 having 4.05 can be hacked?
Agr 4.05 waly ko hack kerny k 6k lerahy hain to mehnga hai, plus games to download hojaty hain.
[MENTION=26661]Cerberus[/MENTION] bhai ps4 pro lely, is waqt ps4 se behtr kisi k exclusives nhi, baqi multiplat games k liye bhi acha hai, games ki availability bhi asaan hai used me porany games achi price me miljaty hain.

Xbox one X, though it is powerful, lekin isky games used me kum milengy plus isky games ki resale kum hai ap new game logy bechny jaogy kafi paisy tootengy.

Ps4 pro is good for gaming in 1080p too.
Used me 35-40k tk miljayega, baqi new 45-48k. Region koi bhi ho, jo susta mily uthalo.

Ps4 pro already have 1tb hdd, while slim 1tb costs 37-39k. So better go for Pro.



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Chandoo

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which console has better titles (halo, gear of war is not what I play, uncharted on the other side is my fav)
I think you already answered your question. Go with the console which has more exclusive games you enjoy. Multiplats are 95% of the time exactly the same.
 

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Dont buy Hacked console.

Reasons being
1. ONLY Games released before FW 4.04 work on it.
2. NO Online whatsoever.
3. Its still in its infant state so who knows what could happen. (Remember its sony's major product right now)
4. These idiots are charging you extra for free stuff, such as 1000+ for each game installed. Haram kamai na do.
5. Hacked consoles are priced unreasonbly.

Get the legit one, games arent that hard to find, instead of filing 1000rs for a hacked game, might just grab a legit one for 1500-2000.

Average price for games in market are simply around 1500-2500.
 

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Ps4 fat 38k (hacked)
Ps4 slim 45k (hacked)

Ps4 slim 34k
Ps4 Pro 50k

I am more inclined toward Pro for its graphical capabilities but it cannot be hacked. This Fat PS4 used to cost around 25k but now they have increased prices

Is jshak still in business? or any PG console retailer
[MENTION=35465]hamidkhatri[/MENTION] Dr sab apke pas konsa hai
 

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[MENTION=26661]Cerberus[/MENTION] yes only 4.05 or below is hackable. games also which require fw above 4.05 wont work including fifa 18 and so on
 

hamidkhatri

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Ps4 fat 38k (hacked)
Ps4 slim 45k (hacked)

Ps4 slim 34k
Ps4 Pro 50k

I am more inclined toward Pro for its graphical capabilities but it cannot be hacked. This Fat PS4 used to cost around 25k but now they have increased prices

Is jshak still in business? or any PG console retailer
[MENTION=35465]hamidkhatri[/MENTION] Dr sab apke pas konsa hai
Recently got ps4 pro white destiny 2 bundle from dubai in sale ;)

Bhai hacked k 10-15k oper deny se behtr ha aap legit lo, 15-20 games khel lo gy aap 10-15k me araam se. Used me games lo khelo or 200-500 kum me bechdo, simple, wo zyada behtr hai. Baqi aap [MENTION=6946]amaga[/MENTION] [MENTION=2126]Jshak[/MENTION] [MENTION=103807]asgharkhanani[/MENTION] vaghera se new leskty ho legit. Asghar bhai k rates zyada behtr hoty hain baqi depend krta hai

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Unless you are gaming on 4k, don't bother with the PS4 pro. go with ps4 slim. great console. Not every game is optimized for ps4 pro, nor every new game offers support for extra detailed graphics, in other words you will see some small improvments in some games if you go with the pro. Also, get a legit one, there are deals every other month and most games can be bought second hand.
 

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Thank you [MENTION=93260]GloriousChicken[/MENTION] and [MENTION=124622]neox3d[/MENTION]

I have dropped the idea of hacked console as they are charging insanely high and used games are better alternative

Now I am confused between PS4 and PS4 Pro

Slim wins by price of course (34k 500gb 38k 1tb) while Pro costs 49-50k

Even though I most probably be gaming on 1080p but future games might have great difference in graphics even on 1080p. Pro might be helpful then. Current differences are mostly minimal, I have observed.

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Actually. That is not the way the pro works. It will be different with every game. The only upside to pro is that you get supersampling with the latest update that means you get more anti aliasing. But that's about it. All AAA titles will work on the ps4 regardless.
So aside from supersampling, getting the pro will not enhance every game on 1080p even if it has more power.

Get the pro if you are going to get a 4k display as well. Otherwise it's really not worth it.


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[MENTION=26661]Cerberus[/MENTION] -

Simply put

With PS4 Pro, you will be able to -

1. Play Games on 4K Screen.
A 4K Display is a must, which costs around 80K as well.
If you dont have the 4K display, your games will Downsample to your resolution. (Still not as good as 4K though).

2. There are only select few titles optimized for PS4 Pro, in other words, for 4K.
Such as Horizon Zero Dawn, Assassins Creed Origins, God of War, etc.
Only a few titles, unless you really care for that extra little detail on screen, its not that worth it if you want to save money.

3. Some games will take FPS Advantage over the normal PS4.
Some games get more juice from the system so they can add 20 FPS extra or something.
Its not that huge of a deal neither its that needed, especially on a budget.

4. Future Proofing. In some way.


My recommendation?
If you dont care much for the tiny detail, get the Slim version. I know I did. And its the best decision for a console so far in my life.

You can play everything the PS4 Pro can at a lower price, the extra money you can gear towards the amazing titles it offers.
 

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one last query [MENTION=93260]GloriousChicken[/MENTION] is 1tb worth over 500gb, I wont buy buying online titles, do disk requires installation prior to playing
 

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one last query @GloriousChicken is 1tb worth over 500gb, I wont buy buying online titles, do disk requires installation prior to playing
Personally,
I took 500GB because I wanted to rely mostly on physical games, which saves up alot of space.

500GB is managable if you dont want to keep more than 12-18 at a time or something.
you can always upgrade later with a better harddrive than the standard 1TB that comes with the PS4 you planned to get.


But yeah, get 500GB save money and gear towards physical games mostly.


AAA titles are around 50-60GB. (Example being Horizon Zero Dawn, CoD WW2, AC Origins etc)
Most titles are around 18-25GB.
Lesser titles are around 2-8GB.


Perfectly managable.
 

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I counted them on the sizes of those games.
They're mixed if you manage them well.

Including those smaller scale games etc etc

AAA titles are obviously going to taek everything lol

well i out of the box replaced my 500gig to 1tb that was back in 2014... even than 500gig was nothing. 1tb is a minimum dunno when will sony understand. still bringing out 500gigs
 
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