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ahmedali

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I unable to make with him contact. Ive added his name into the list, but he seems to have no website/blog or online gallery.
 

Rapchik Killer

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Nah, not matric exams but A lvls! Neways, i thought i replied to you wen u mailed me, or did i?? Even im uncertain now! Neways, the paki gaming scene is pretty bad, and im sorry to say that i dont know much about the paki scene, so i most probably wont me much use to you if you want to know about some good game programmers! Neways if you think of a joint project or something, do mail me, i think pakistan really needs a proper game!

BTW i have created several other projects too, but as they have been wiped from my computer because of formatting, i wont mention em cause there are a lot of kids out there boasting a lot of things tho they dont know shit, nd i dont wanna be one of em! Another thing, i just remembered i have this blog:

http://rapchikprogrammer.blogspot.com/

But i havent updated it for months! But now ill try to update it regularly! And another thing if you want to contact me mail me at umarnizamani[at]users[dot]sourceforge[dot]net !
 
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ahmedali

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Unfortunately there are only few known Pakistani game programmers that are present on internet, you can count them on fingers. I had already added your name in the list at my blog after seeing your additions to IPhysics.

Many young Pakistani game programmers rise from school age to college/university. But once in practical life it becomes extreamly difficult to continue with game programming they most probable start working on something more profitable. Anyway I just wanted to keep people aware of gamedev activities in Pakistan.

Also dont feel hasitated to communicate people about your past and current work even if its going to be failure or remain uncomplete. Publicity is as important and game development it self.

btw you said somewhere you are working on an FPS, whats the status?

http://elkali.wordpress.com/
http://elkali.wordpress.com/pakistani-gamedev/
http://lashkar.berlios.de/
 

katana

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Assalam-o-Alikum.I dont consider commando 4 a game.Because it was made from GUI programme called FPS creator.I have the same programme.They didnt wrote any code ane didnt model anything.They just recorded voices.
 

ahmedali

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I agree, I hate c4 too I will add details, but to remain unbiased I added it on the basis of release. With the help of false marketing, atleast they managed to make some sales and made some money.

Hmmm, if even the commando4's artork & code is copied, I think it should be considered a Ripoff.
 

ahmedali

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Along with FpsCreator there are other beginner friendly GameDev RADs like 3dGameStudio. Practically there is No problem with making games with RADs. These tools are designed for non-technical artist s & designers for making games.

But the bad thing is when they dont even bother to add creative input, 3d models, textures, art & story on their own. And they dont even recognise the origional credits of artists pretending to claiming theirs.
 

Rapchik Killer

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Ya the fps is immortal arenas, i was going on with it in full swing, still have the source code, but now i dont get the time to work on it as i have several wonderful ideas in my mind! Maybe if i get the time ill continue on with it! It uses irrlicht for 3d and now i was about to add physics with ofcourse iphysics! But currently im working with dx9 and ogl apis and also working with ogre!
 

ahmedali

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@rapchick
I can understand the amount of time and effort to achieve something, the good thing is that you are 17, so you have plenty of time to learn before entering the real world and realize may be I should goto .net, databases, webdevelopment if I want to land a job in Pakistan.

Assuming theres no future for GameDevelopment in Pakistan, how do you feel about your future? Which studies? job?

Im a self-learned programmer since I was 15. I did ICS and went to join BCS but instead finally did B.com, but still managed to keep my knowledge increasing and never lost interest in mainstream game programming.
But finally I have to face a dilemma, im going to do MBA but dont want to lose interest in game development since my skills are way ahead now.
May be I manage to do some commercial work on my own in future.
Ali, a well known pakistani programmer also faced difficulty with career.
http://triplebuffer.devmaster.net/blog/?userid=1
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I found this Commando4 interview.
http://www.netxpress.com.pk/netexpress/interviews.asp?use=Commando 4&Issue=Issue 6

[ANGRY MODE ON]
It really pisses me off when these so called Software Engineers make fool of non-technical people. Just having a first galance at the interview, I can see how they manipulate every thing in their favour.

Tell us a little but about the design and implementation process behind the design of this game?
We used an iterative and incremental model. We organized the development into a series of short, fixed-length targets, at which point we tested our short-term work product and integrated it with the previous executables. Our iterative lifecycle was based on the successive enlargements and refinements, and using cyclic feedback, we converged upon a suitable system in a period of a little more than 4 months. Now that we have a reference point, we can go for proper larger development cycles in future versions.
4 MONTHS WITH FPS CREATOR ???????? Wt? they were doing for 4 months with FPS Creator?

"Iterative/Incremental Development/ cyclic feedback", slaping SoftwareEngineering terms they learned from books doesnt make a good software engineer.

Like many Pakistanis, these people wants Shortcuts & Magical tools which require No Use of Brain & Effort. Not only that they are Shamlessly Overconfident. There is not place for lazy people who avoid hardwork in gamedevelopment.

[ANGRY MODE OFF]

Well, i normally dont rant like that.... I really respect people who may not have high GP, degree, confidence, iq but they are Passionate, Hardworking, Humble and have a confidence no higher than their real abilities and against all odds push their selves to the limits.
 

Rapchik Killer

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I have been programming for the past several years and worked my way from quick basic which i learned when i was 12 by myself using the help menu (the help lists all the commands and what the command does) then i made my way through to vb which was the beginning of my proper programming! I have worked with several aspects of programming using vb like database, internet and then 3d was the one that took my heart away! I created a very low grade game called terrorist in vb and then made a dx game engine using vb which was really good as it allowed you to load md2 models too! Then i also worked out with .net but i felt that its best to not be dependent on microsoft and since then i have been programming using c++ and used several ide's and now am starting to work on linux too! Now i am going to go in game development even if i have to go to a foreign country as you can understand from above that i have a passion about making games, and everything i have learnt yet is by myself from books or searching the internet so i think this passion will lead me to a good future one day!

BTW i made a new blog for my self:
http://rapchik.wordpress.com/

And how about a link exchange, i have put a link to your blog on my blog!
 
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katana

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Assalam-o-Alikum.no ahmed ali i havent made a game yet nor moded any.did gwbasic in matric.I also like rapchik have gr8 interest in programing and especially game programing.i got a book on c++ but due to lack of time could not read it.next month i have 1st year exams.so after exams im gonna learn c++ with the help of the book and also rapchick.
 

superlative56

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I m Also a BSCS Student and work on several non gaming project . Didnt got time for game side programing only I creat some little games like tic tac toe,snake,wordcross,etc . I use irrlicht engine but in burden of studies didt continue it.

@RP how u r so perfect in c++ give me some tips to improve my Skills
 

ahmedali

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@rapchick
....and everything i have learnt yet is by myself from books or searching the internet.......
Same here :). Keep increasing your knowledge & experience, hope for better future. But a piece of advice, have a "BackUp" plan. Even in western countries a good Database programmer makes more $$$ than a good game programmer :frown: . Good luck for ur future.



@all who want to do game development
Just a matter of advice, dont count on others help or wait for the right time. Rapchik & I are good because we didnt waited for some one to teach us. If you have passion for something you will do almost anything to get it.
If you cannot afford time due to studies or anything to learn c++ or any hardcore stuff, dont get disappointed or discouraged, there are tons of alternative & easy ways. FPS creator, Modding games etc etc.

You can do modding for games like HL/CounterStrike, HalfLife2, Farcry etc.
 
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