Election Thread 2018 - (GO VOTE NOW ) Which party will you Vote and Why?

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This exactly. This is how Brexit happened, and now the young generation is suffering and will continue to suffer for the mistakes their elders made by falling in the trap of voting for Brexit.

Brexit: How Old Voters Pushed for Leave Over the Young | Time
"The U.K.'s Old Decided for the Young in the Brexit Vote" you dont want to be stuck into this.

Its fine if you hate all the politicians, its fine if all of them are corrupt - The main thing is vote, so the system improves upon itself. If you dont vote, then you dont get a choice in complaining afterwards. So do vote.
Dont vote on creed, case, color or whatever. See what their plan is, and vote.
As much as I believe in the saying "you should do your part and forget about the rest" and as much as I want to agree with you, this time I can't.

The thing is when a country is this messed up, ( it's really Abuses will lead to ban messed up) all this politics is just an effin drama and no matter who you Abuses will lead to banin vote, aega wohi jisne ana he,
and when I have lost all hope for this piece of land, then why the heck am I wasting my breath?

I am standing in a line or whatever in this heated atmosphere to vote for a bunch of idiots when I don't even care about what's going on here? Hell no, Imma chill at my home.
Why should I waste my time trying to figure out who is the least sinful person here when the least sinful is prolly just as sinful. Why should I waste my time trying to pick a person among a list of persons
standing up to be the next "leech" who wants to suck the country dry. Instead, Imma chill at my home and work steadily trying to quickly get the f out of this gutter.

And I never complain because I know the people here are just as responsible as the government, we have no right to complain, Actually we get a fitting leader everytime for ourselves seeing the way we are.
This country is an effin gutter. Nobody can set this on the correct track without any "DRASTIC" measures which ain't happening because nobody wants it to change :lol: It's like a system where both parties involved, the people and the government want it to stay this way to an extent somewhat. The people are living a lax life with no rules. break the signals whenever you want, spit and throw garbage wherever you want. Hey I need to piss, why shouldn't I piss under the bridge. Hey I'm low on cash, lets go steal something from the public. They LOVE it. On the contrary the government LOVES it as well.

What you said works in "civilized" countries where rules and regulations are followed, where you know the policies and other shit involved and you know the backgrounds of the people standing up for the elections.
 
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Voting in Pakistan is like...
Allowing one of the sick criminals out of the prison to run your country dry.

Independant candidates? Man... If only there was a choice for those people.
They either have to give in to the power and cruelty of upper parties or they have to leave due to "obvious" reasons.

Theres a reason there arent that many options out there because they all have to be taken out of the way.

Its just a sad reality.

I'm the one for "drastic" change.
One that can put things in line. Screw this system and the people.


EDIT: Also, I forgot to add... voting for the person you think is the least worst is better than nothing. The systems here, might as well just do it.
 
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i forgot to add, i will be voting for PTI this election, did in 2013 as well but vote got changee by bhailoog.

I am hopeful things will change, we have too much negativity in our minds
 

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As much as I believe in the saying "you should do your part and forget about the rest" and as much as I want to agree with you, this time I can't.

Okey, so I understand and agree with the frustration. Infact, I have held the same belief - that just dont vote myself for a very long time. Oh no..I am not saying "do your part and forget about the rest" - what I am saying is that voting is a right and your vote does hold the power - that works in the grand scheme of things. It might not seem like it, but it does and it adds up.
I am trying to propose having a slightly longer-sightedness


The thing is when a country is this messed up, ( it's really Abuses will lead to ban messed up) all this politics is just an effin drama and no matter who you Abuses will lead to banin vote, aega wohi jisne ana he,
and when I have lost all hope for this piece of land, then why the heck am I wasting my breath?

I am standing in a line or whatever in this heated atmosphere to vote for a bunch of idiots when I don't even care about what's going on here? Hell no, Imma chill at my home.
Why should I waste my time trying to figure out who is the least sinful person here when the least sinful is prolly just as sinful. Why should I waste my time trying to pick a person among a list of persons
standing up to be the next "leech" who wants to suck the country dry. Instead, Imma chill at my home and work steadily trying to quickly get the f out of this gutter.
The thing is, what I am saying is after living for 6 years outside of Pakistan, after working in my "dream field" which isnt even present in Pakistan, after removing nostalgic and emotional aspects, after not liking alot of things, after everything...Nowhere will you feel and nowhere will make you feel like home, except for where you grew up. Moving away is definitely an option, but even when you move away, people (Friends, family, parents, acquaintances, x, y, z ) all are still living in that country - if you dont wanna return ever, vote for them at-least.
Complaining is good, as long as you can do something about it - voting allows you do exactly that.


Nobody can set this on the correct track without any "DRASTIC" measures which ain't happening because nobody wants it to change :lol: It's like a system where both parties involved, the people and the government want it to stay this way to an extent somewhat. The people are living a lax life with no rules. break the signals whenever you want, spit and throw garbage wherever you want. Hey I need to piss, why shouldn't I piss under the bridge. Hey I'm low on cash, lets go steal something from the public. They LOVE it. On the contrary the government LOVES it as well.

What you said works in "civilized" countries where rules and regulations are followed, where you know the policies and other shit involved and you know the backgrounds of the people standing up for the elections.

Maybe my opinion changed about voting after living outside Pakistan for such a long time, maybe once I saw how these civilized societies were formed, my opinion changed. These societies are also design and formed out of a system, "Yeh Asmaan se nahi aye". And a similar sort of system is what is in Pakistan. If we allow it to work, it will work. Its a process which will take its time and due course. Democratic process is a self-correcting one : Samantha Power delivers 2014 Harvard Kennedy School Commencement Address | Harvard Magazine

I would suggest watching these ( they are super fun) Politics in the Animal Kingdom — CGP Grey


IMO, we shouldnt sit back and wait for a messiah, who will bring a revolution - I dont think thats happening. And I know that alot of what I wrote wont matter to you or others who arent going to vote, and it might seem idealistic or even naive to think that our vote helps...but I have seen the "power of bureaucratic process " - and it works....and again, these nations (Germany, Sweden, Finland, Norway, etc) were not these amazing nations - for gods sake, hitler was a elected guy - but the system worked..people got what they wanted, and to this day, it is still evident in every step they take. Thus, I think everyone should vote.
 

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^ Bhai we don't need messiahs, true, we need good caring people. And what happens when these people try to enter politics? They will be sleeping eternally before they get the chance to do something xD
Why would you wanna vote when there is no guarantee your vote actually reaches the person you intended to vote for, with all this dhandli going on it could be going to the person they want to elect not what the public wants
and even if it IS going to the intended person, there is no person eligible for getting my Abuses will lead to ban vote, simple as that xD

Like I said what you are saying is right, but influenced from foreign countries. Don't apply foreign logic to Pakistan, this is a gutter that defies logic and all shit. No rules here. Frauds and other shit going on.
At first it may seem like Pak follows all these politics rules and policies just like foreign countries but it doesn't. It's all a fucking drama to fool the public xD


What's the best way to straighten a full grown tree trunk that has grown out of its way? None. You cut it down and plant a new tree, and while it's growing you maintain it's direction.
Right so just fire every single person involved in the politics right now. Bring in new people totally unrelated to this gutter crap we have here(I don't effin care how) and then we will be talkin about changes and stuff.
Imma up for vote if that happens.

Edit:- And as GC said voting here is like choosing which sick criminal to let out of the prison and run the city. If you want me choosing between a rapist and a serial killer for e.g
Hell no, I'm not up for this task. The sole idea of voting for persons like these makes me wanna puke.
 
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Hey heres an idea, add a poll in this thread... to see which party does PG members support most? (sm1)
Like poll with all the parties name and question should be who you gonna vote?
 

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Imran Khan - PTI.

We have tried and tested these so called 'experienced' and 'jamhoori' politicians many times now. It's time to give someone else a chance and see how they perform.

People of Pakistan NEED to regularly choose the 'performing' parties. If tomorrow, even Imran Khan's party doesn't perform well ... kick them out and bring someone new.
 

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I think psp is good

They have mustafa kamal.

So there will be kamal hi kamal.

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Reading through this piece, I thought to share it with you guys

Think elections are pointless? This will change your mind



Yes, voting is a civic duty and we should all vote but does it really have any positive consequences?
Here are a few research-backed reasons that demonstrate that voting absolutely does have tangible benefits.
Electoral competition matters for service delivery and spending

Research on municipal service provision in the Lahore district shows that urban citizens’ access to services improves when there is greater competition at the provincial and national constituency level.
Who gets elected matters for security

A new study using data on elections and violence from 1988-2011 suggests that levels of violence depend on which party gets elected.

If your're still not convinced, then read
the story's full version.

Thinking of not voting in Pakistan's elections? Think again
- Blogs - DAWN.COM
 

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Imran Khan - PTI.

We have tried and tested these so called 'experienced' and 'jamhoori' politicians many times now. It's time to give someone else a chance and see how they perform.

People of Pakistan NEED to regularly choose the 'performing' parties. If tomorrow, even Imran Khan's party doesn't perform well ... kick them out and bring someone new.
Exactly my thoughts. We have already tried literally everyone other than him. Worst case scenario? He turns out like the previous ones? At least there won't be any regret later on.

And afterall what worse could happen than pakistani rupee dropping 5rs against USD in two days?

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Was thinking about voting for PTI but they gave me Amir Liaquat lol. Not voting now as there seems to be no worthy candidate in my constituency.
 
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Also, the military is with PTI and against other major parties so voting for anyone else is useless anyway. No free and fair elections as usual.
 

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https://www.dawn.com/news/1420843/comparing-digital-policies-of-contesting-political-parties-in-pakistan-general-elections-2018


With less than 10 days to go for Pakistan General Elections 2018, key contesting political parties are propagating their manifestos addressing focal areas of progress for the country.
In the past few years, Pakistan may have emerged as the fifth largest emerging economy. However, it is still coping to build a digital economy and a stable ecosystem for entrepreneurship, which can be detrimental for the country’s economy in the years to come.
The former government had launched various initiatives to provide a bedrock for the digital economy for Pakistan. Be it entrepreneurial initiatives for youth, research centres for academia or tax incentives for the digital industry.
The question now emerges, how much focus have all contesting political parties put on the agenda for continuing to strengthen the local technology and entrepreneurial ecosystem?
It should be noted here that a digital ecosystem is not limited to IT exports or tech startups only. It also encompasses a wider area of leveraging technology through research and development for solving urban and rural challenges, building an infrastructure for e-governance, driving tech innovations in the social sector and building the next generation of the digital workforce.
On the campaign trail, the first party to announce technology as a priority area has been the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaaf (PTI) by launching their 14-point Digital Policy.
Ahead of the elections, the policy has been the first notable effort by any major political party to focus on long term goals to improve Pakistan’s standing in the digital domain.
The policy was followed by the manifesto of the PPP that contains a three-pronged approach for the advancement of the local IT sector.
The approach falls short on chalking out an action plan and revolves around only introducing critical policy statements and regulatory frameworks.
Seemingly added as an afterthought, the technology agenda in the PPP manifesto failed to address education-related incentives and e-governance.
Given the understanding of the technology and entrepreneurial sector that the PML-N gained in their past tenure, their manifesto necessarily puts a strong focus on Digitising Pakistan and it does so with an action plan.
Major incentives already piloted in Punjab are mentioned to be expanded across the country with a strong focus on digitising citizen services.
Here’s how each digital manifesto measures in contrast to the following core areas:
[h=2]Digital inclusion with mobile, broadband penetration[/h]According to the Pakistan Telecom Authority (PTA), less than 30 per cent of the population of Pakistan has access to the internet, be it broadband or 3G/4G services.
Mobile penetration also stands below 70pc.
In order to accelerate digital inclusion, increased mobile and broadband penetrations should be a priority on the agenda of the elected political party.
The PML-N’s aim to cut down the cost of broadband access can be effective as a short-term goal to increase internet access, while the PTI’s approach to build a larger digital infrastructure will be key to national transformation.
[h=2]Accelerating growth of startups, SMEs[/h]The entrepreneurial ecosystem of Pakistan is still evolving and in its nascent stage.
Various incubation centres have been established across major cities, including the five National Incubation Centres launched by the Ministry of IT and Telecommunications in collaboration with Ignite.
However, Pakistan has yet to produce a unicorn.
The ecosystem finds itself struggling to attract international venture capitalists and angel funds.
There is also a lack of local investors who can facilitate startups to scale up across the country and later enter the global market.
Compared to the neighbouring country, Startup India action plan has enabled Indian startups to accelerate their growth by seeking facilitation through a whopping INR 100 billion funding pool, tax exemptions, reduced patent fees, and an improved bankruptcy code.
Support for startups does not end at building a funding pool, but it also requires critical policy and legislative support.
The PML-N’s plan of the government contributing funds for startup support can be a constructive step if executed in a public-private partnership model.
Ignite can be a relevant archetype here, but the ecosystem is in need of a proper VC fund with private management.
When it comes to PTI, their focus on normalising the tax structure can be a huge step and unleash tremendous growth in the local sector.
[h=2]Unleashing potential of IT industry[/h]IT exports of Pakistan have now expanded to over 100 countries with a growth rate of a whopping 125pc. The industry has also contributed 98pc to Pakistan’s economy by foreign exchange earnings.
The Pakistan Software Houses Association (P@SHA) has actively engaged with the former government to put forth the concerns and interests of tech industry stakeholders.
Their pursuit of discourse with the government has lead to the announcement of critical policy statements, tax holidays, economic benefits and Special Economic Zones (SEZs) for the IT sector.
The federal cabinet also passed Pakistan’s first Digital Policy in the tenure of the past government.
All that is required now is to keep the momentum going with an improved technology policy, global collaborations, and infrastructural investments.
Both PTI and PML-N understand the importance of dedicated Special Economic Zones (SEZs) and clusters for technology.
It is the best way forward for the growth of the industry.
The previous government was also working on this technology SEZ model with P@SHA.
Moreover, the PTI’s focus on using the expat community and working on the image problem for Pakistan is going to the root of the reluctance of foreign investors coming to Pakistan.
[h=2]Strengthening infrastructure for e-commerce, financial technology[/h]The e-commerce sector of Pakistan seems to be thriving and is expected to hit $1 billion mark in the current fiscal year.
However, when it comes to e-commerce readiness, Pakistan ranks 120th.
It can be attributed to the comparative lack of logistics solutions and digital payments as required for the nascent e-commerce industry.
While broadband penetration has accelerated the growth of e-commerce, the fintech industry is still struggling to develop a strong foothold in terms of infrastructure and quality of services.
Consumers and businesses alike are finding it difficult to move towards digital transactions.
According to the Asian Development Bank, 95pc of e-commerce sales in Pakistan opt for Cash on Delivery (CoD) instead of digital payment methods.
PML-N’s focus on e-procurement across all public departments will create a lot of demand for local vendors.
Whereas, PTI’s focus on financial services can strengthen the backbone for e-commerce.
Furthermore, PPP’s priority of providing easy credit to this sector can prove to be groundbreaking for the sector.
[h=2]Increasing ease of doing business and attracting foreign investors[/h]Pakistan has yet to see a billion dollar company — and government and local infrastructure will play a huge role to attract investments in the technology sector.
Pakistan has the capacity and human resource to build products for global markets, however, red-tape and bureaucratic procedures chase away foreign partners.
It has now become increasingly important, not only for startups but major software companies that are developing IT products or providing IT enabled service to raise investments and expand outside Pakistan.
The PML-N has already been working on ease of doing business and so has the PPP in Sindh.
The PTI’s focus on easier visa and travel for both inbound and outbound professional will critical for our sector as currently, it stands as one of the major hurdles faced by the local sector.
[h=2]Ensuring accountability with e-governance, Open Data[/h]Not only developed countries but also developing countries across the globe are harnessing the power of technology and data to enable transparent and efficient governance.
When it comes to Pakistan, the data collection and record keeping of various public departments is antiquated.
There is a lack of coordination between these departments and it only increases from the federal to the provincial levels.
It is time that the elected government automate and digitise citizen services to cut back on resources and ensure better efficiency.
The PML-N has already done remarkable work on e-services in Punjab.
PTI’s proposal of making a central Knowledge Economy Authority is really visionary as all the countries that have transformed digitally have taken this ownership at the highest level, whether it is Modi’s Digital India or Netanyahu promoting Israel as a Startup Nation.
[h=2]Building a 21st Century global workforce[/h]The future of skills is digital.
Digital Pakistan cannot only be a possibility with an infrastructure and investments, but academia also has to play a significant role to build the next generation of technology experts.
While initiatives to impart digital skills as a vocational training can help provide sustainable livelihoods.
Pakistan also has the 5th largest number of freelancers.
However, to drive excellence in innovation and research, Pakistan will have to be aggressive to not miss out on the fourth industrial revolution.
In contrast, Make in India campaign has helped India to attract Apple, Samsung, Oppo and other smartphone makers that are now setting up their manufacturing units in India.
The PML-N’s e-Rozgaar and its future focus on apprenticeship can produce high-skilled workers.
While PTI’s focus on promoting and subsidising IT education will also have a far-reaching impact on the local job market and Pakistan’s international standing.
This article originally appeared on TechJuice and has been reproduced
 

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Army coup and marshal law is much better . Pakistan was doing much better during ayub Khan and musharraf tenure then it has done in so called democracy .
 
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