Earning with Cracked Software = Haram ?

r3aper

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When I started earning through graphic designing, initially it was all good but then one day it struck me that I am using a stolen tool to earn money even though the skill is mine but the tool is "stolen".
I consulted many regarding this matter, but never really got a satisfying answer. I kept on using a discontinued version of PS..I was using PS 7.0 at the time of CS3, so it kind of calmed me thinking that I am using a product which is no longer available for sale so its fine to use it for free.

Now I occasionally do graphic designing, using CS2 which was made free last year by Adobe.

My conclusion is, earning money on the base of a stolen/pirated software can't be considered halal.
 

Keyboardcowboy

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what about our degrees???, who knows if the software running in our universities is legit or not we learn using these tools without knowing about there legitimacy.
Does that make our degrees/our learning haram as well???
 

Shary Bhallu TC

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I think that all universities use all kinds of legit softwares. Else they can be raided and closed down...

Besides we are paying fees to learn. And it is not upto us to install legit software on the computers from where we are learning because we have already paid the amount required for softwares to be established as legit.
 

desprado

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I think that all universities use all kinds of legit softwares. Else they can be raided and closed down...

Besides we are paying fees to learn. And it is not upto us to install legit software on the computers from where we are learning because we have already paid the amount required for softwares to be established as legit.
i was in bahria university and my teacher told we dont use legal software so they were cracked and this is pakistan so one can raided on just illegal software
 
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Shary Bhallu TC

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I've seen some shops being closed for selling illegal software. :)

It is strange to see that universities who teach students to create and sell software and games are themselves pirating the software... But still... We pay fees, and that fees should go into buying or atleast renting legit software. If it isn't, then that is not our fault since we have already completed what is required of us (i.e. paying fees). It is then upto the management of that university to buy legit software through that money.
 

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Itna mat socha karo yaro matlab had hi ho gai yay to. You know most businesses are running on interest? Yon to kissi bhi company main kaam karna haraam hai. Microsoft itself is a haram company then so you should not pay it money. See itna deep jao gai to kuch nai honai wala.

Pehla acha insan bano aur apna sai kam logon kee madat karo yay haram halal main itna mat paro is mulk main issai bohot barai masla hain. Bas neeyat saaf rakho and be a good human.

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aasghar55

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1st thing who introduce windows Operating software gore I guess and secondly who developed a tons of crack software for Windows again gora so problem solved gore ne gore ki M_ _ _ri aur dono gash kha ke gir gaye hahaha so guys enjoyez lee and enjoy kar pyare aur bhe gham hai windows ke siwa dunia mein dost
 

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what about our degrees???, who knows if the software running in our universities is legit or not we learn using these tools without knowing about there legitimacy.
Does that make our degrees/our learning haram as well???
Brother just be sure u spend halaal money on ur studies ... It's not ur responsibility what ur university is providing you ... The earnings of ur teachers will doubtful not ur degrees so relax concentrate on ur studies n when u earn money even using pirated or cracked stuff just try to buy legal stuff which u used ...
So if everyone just does his part right n he will see one day there will be a good change dnt blame Pakistan ... It's not our country whose at fault it's US people like us who earn from every illegal way ...
And guys Plz stop humiliating the name of the country ... If ur not honest then dnt blame Pakistan for it :)
 

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Itna mat socha karo yaro matlab had hi ho gai yay to. You know most businesses are running on interest? Yon to kissi bhi company main kaam karna haraam hai. Microsoft itself is a haram company then so you should not pay it money. See itna deep jao gai to kuch nai honai wala.

Pehla acha insan bano aur apna sai kam logon kee madat karo yay haram halal main itna mat paro is mulk main issai bohot barai masla hain. Bas neeyat saaf rakho and be a good human.

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Thinker ur nick is thinker n ur stopping those who want their earnings to be pure n without any doubt :) plz think
Isn't it better to have a better life here after than few yrs of extra earnings ...
Yes there are many businesses which are illegal if u consult Islamic scholars but we dnt Care ... We say as everyone else is doing it n uskay na seeng nikalay na shakal kharab hoi so main b try kar laita hoon ... Aur ise try try main poori zindagi guzar jati hai
We actually consult hundred people before choosing a graduate degree we study 16 yrs for next 20-30 yrs ... But we never think once before choosing a profession ... People may even call very obvious forms of professions legal cause out of 200 channels they see on every channel such kind of professionals ... So he will obviously think r those people stupid doing that job or am I stupid thinking about its legality all alone ...

Even Allah has not pushed u to the right path He has shown u both ways n wisdom also to decide ... it's ur own will n wish to choose one ... Choose one n then live with it ... N face the consequences ...

Khair this discussion is endless n it's good for someone who is really serious about the quality of his earnings ... The interested one should search as deep as he can consult as many people As he can ... Cause it's just not his own self but his family his dependent parents his wife his children his dependent siblings ... A whole generation ... So I think "ye he sab say bara gham hona chaheye keh Kia mari kamaye haram you nahe"
N may Allah bless all those who seek His guidance and Hidayat ...
 

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i was in bahria university and my teacher told we dont use legal software so they were cracked and this is pakistan so one can raided on just illegal software
That teacher doesn't deserve to be a teacher when he himself has no idea of ethics and fair usage of software. The irony is, they teach you degree on cracked software to make money from software. Although if you see any good organization, they use Linux because of Open source.

And honestly, Linux is 500 times better platform to learn programming skills, because its open source as well as specifically built to think like a programmer. You literally need to be a programmer to actually take full benefit from Linux. They teach students to program and think outside the box, while being locked inside cracked windows box. :).

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Thinker ur nick is thinker n ur stopping those who want their earnings to be pure n without any doubt :) plz think
Isn't it better to have a better life here after than few yrs of extra earnings ...
Yes there are many businesses which are illegal if u consult Islamic scholars but we dnt Care ... We say as everyone else is doing it n uskay na seeng nikalay na shakal kharab hoi so main b try kar laita hoon ... Aur ise try try main poori zindagi guzar jati hai
We actually consult hundred people before choosing a graduate degree we study 16 yrs for next 20-30 yrs ... But we never think once before choosing a profession ... People may even call very obvious forms of professions legal cause out of 200 channels they see on every channel such kind of professionals ... So he will obviously think r those people stupid doing that job or am I stupid thinking about its legality all alone ...

Even Allah has not pushed u to the right path He has shown u both ways n wisdom also to decide ... it's ur own will n wish to choose one ... Choose one n then live with it ... N face the consequences ...

Khair this discussion is endless n it's good for someone who is really serious about the quality of his earnings ... The interested one should search as deep as he can consult as many people As he can ... Cause it's just not his own self but his family his dependent parents his wife his children his dependent siblings ... A whole generation ... So I think "ye he sab say bara gham hona chaheye keh Kia mari kamaye haram you nahe"
N may Allah bless all those who seek His guidance and Hidayat ...
Sir you got free Red Bull Energy drink today ? :)
 

Lord Ammar

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Itna mat socha karo yaro matlab had hi ho gai yay to. You know most businesses are running on interest? Yon to kissi bhi company main kaam karna haraam hai. Microsoft itself is a haram company then so you should not pay it money. See itna deep jao gai to kuch nai honai wala.

Pehla acha insan bano aur apna sai kam logon kee madat karo yay haram halal main itna mat paro is mulk main issai bohot barai masla hain. Bas neeyat saaf rakho and be a good human.

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LOL do apne ap ko jhooti tasallian.
 

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Halal and Haraam is not a petty issue. Maybe this is the real problem. We don't even consider it a problem to begin with.
As I said I don't let religion dictate my life, apni apni soch hai bhai. Religion certainly hasn't done this country any good so don't get me started on this. The most successful nations in the world are those which keep a nice balance between religion and practicality.

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krazyhamad420

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dont enter in HALAL / HARAM thing for these things ....

Sood is haram par hamari govt karzay day rai hy ...
Online money system sara sood pa run ho raha hy ...

but limit main reh kar karo .... ye na ho po*n upload kar k earning start kar do ...
and thora sa sadka day diya karo jo earn kiya karo :) :) :)

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We should rather think about moving forward and how to move our country forward

hum halal/haram aur religious fights main he larte rehte hain aur baqi countries agay nikal jati hain
 
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