Does Evolution rule out the existence of Extraterrestrial life?

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Benighted said:
I'm really sorry if my post came across harsh. And I agree, I should be providing you reasons to believe in Evolution, but only if it were a debate ON Evolution. It is not, so there's no point. You are welcome to remain skeptical of Evolution. I was only trying to say that, at the very least, you should know Evolution for what it is if you are a critic of it. For only then can your criticism be taken seriously. And you should read first not because you have a "different" opinion, but only because your opinion (regarding Evolution proper, not about how it compares to Islamic genesis etc.) is based on misinformation.

Moreover, any serious debate on Evolution tends to get fairly involved, because Evolution is a very complex theory and I am by no means learned in the matters of Evolution and neither do I have the time these days. (The books mentioned by kalmati are excellent and very readable, by the way).

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Yar jis b evolutionist say pocho no one is ready to make this theory simple enough n convincing enough for me to accept it ... Kisi Kay pas ya tou time nahe ya wo itna arrogant hai keh he says just go n read ur self ...
If u wanted to understand a science question in school ur teachers used to say THIS???
GO READ ABOUT IT UR SELF I ALREADY KNOW IT N SINCE U DNT KNOW IT SO IST KNOW IT URSELF THEN COME N TALK TO ME

I mean ihktilaf b pasand nae aur sawal b pasand nae ... Banda jaye tou jaye kahan ... lol


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No, it does not rule out the existence of extra terrestrials. The theory of evolution is just about how life evolved on Earth, a single planet. It doesn't say anything about life being unique to Earth, it just appears that way because we haven't found any life, SO FAR, on other planets. Thank that to the vastness of the UNIVERSE.

There are millions of stars in a single galaxy and there are millions of galaxies in the universe, if even one in a million star has a planet that is just at the right distance from it and can support life, then there are a millions of possibilities of life existing somewhere other than Earth.
 
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opethian said:
Yar jis b evolutionist say pocho no one is ready to make this theory simple enough n convincing enough for me to accept it ... Kisi Kay pas ya tou time nahe ya wo itna arrogant hai keh he says just go n read ur self ...
If u wanted to understand a science question in school ur teachers used to say THIS???
GO READ ABOUT IT UR SELF I ALREADY KNOW IT N SINCE U DNT KNOW IT SO IST KNOW IT URSELF THEN COME N TALK TO ME

I mean ihktilaf b pasand nae aur sawal b pasand nae ... Banda jaye tou jaye kahan ... lol


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*sigh* I give up.
 
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Benighted said:
*sigh* I give up.
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what to give up man ... evolutionists want me to read evolution fully understand it ist n then criticize or even speak against it ... when on the other side evolutionists dnt understand any religion or their proofs n yet they criticize every religion n my point of view without understanding religion ... how FAIR it is ...
u want me to be an expert of ur beliefs to even talk to u guys ... how logical ...
evolutionists logic against God is as absurd as my logics against evolution ...
 
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^^Yaar this conversation you're having is completely pointless. The thread maker never asked whether or not the threory was correct, he just asked whether or not it dismissed the idea that there may be life on other planets and it doesn't. So just leave it.
 
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FUEL2009 said:
Religion BS!!!???

Didnt know you were also a certified athiest!
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I am more of an "Agnostic" person. Google it up if you want to know more.

Since when Jinn came to inhabit the planets other than earth. AFAIK, its noted in hadees (maybe an ayaa' too, not so certain) that they're prohibited from leaving Earth. You can either be a delusional and deny everything that's been discovered so far, or you can be a skeptic and question everything until its authenticity can be confirmed.

As for the answer, it could be answered through this equation:

 
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opethian said:
Religious BS ???
Why ur offended ?
I had no idea so many evolutionists r just waiting to send things down the drain ...
If people have tolerance for ur scientific BS plz have tolerance for answers of ur unanswered questions by religion ...
Only observation I've seen among evolutionists n creationists I've seen is thy dnt have patience if someone disagrees to them ... The so called God believers of all these religions believed in Him without looking for any scientific proof ... Call them naive or whatever ... N since you evolutionists have mountains of evidence to support then plz put us wise preach us that r there any transitional fossil proof which shows a Neanderthal Man evolved into ape n man ...
Ur using such strong emotions against religion believers but why dnt u try speaking with logics ... People like Jhonson of Intelligent Design n Sherman of NAtural selection had patience to present their point of view why can't u have patience like the people u follow ???

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If you have the time to debate & argue, then you have ample time to study up on the matter. As for me, I'm not asking you to read anything. If you want to live a life under a mullah, then that's your choice. But it becomes a problem for me when you try to "impose" your views on others. You have a brain, use it for once in your life and go study yourself. There's no such thing as "free lunch", and nobody's going to spoonfeed you. Also, as I stated earlier, this isn't a discussion about religion vs science. Stick to the topic at hand or next time you'll be reported for creating disturbance.
 
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opethian said:
It's my request to all evolutionists to plz stop mocking people who dnt agree to ur point of view n present ur "Knowledge based" ideas with patience ... I dnt have time to go n read an idea which I dnt believe in ... Why dnt u help me believe in it ...


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OMG will you stop it already lol, there is a separate Islamic thread. you're the one bashing around religion in here and seem to have no understanding of evolution. no one would be mocking religion if you didn't throw it around here.
 
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وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَاكَ إِلاَّ رَحْمَةً لِّلْعَالَمِينَ
اور اے نبی ہم نے تمکو تمام جہانوں کے لئے رحمت بنا کر بھیجا ہے۔

Surah # 21, Al-Ambiya, Ayah # 107

It's clearly mention WORLDS in this Surah of Holy Quran
 
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JKhan said:
I am more of an "Agnostic" person. Google it up if you want to know more.

Since when Jinn came to inhabit the planets other than earth. AFAIK, its noted in hadees (maybe an ayaa' too, not so certain) that they're prohibited from leaving Earth. You can either be a delusional and deny everything that's been discovered so far, or you can be a skeptic and question everything until its authenticity can be confirmed.

As for the answer, it could be answered through this equation:

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dude jinn are prohibited from hearing what happens in the heavens. they are by no means restricted to the earth only

And we have sought [to reach] the heaven but found it filled with powerful guards and burning flames.
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And we used to sit therein in positions for hearing, but whoever listens now will find a burning flame lying in wait for him.
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Indeed, We have adorned the nearest heaven with an adornment of stars. And as protection against every rebellious devil. [So] they may not listen to the exalted assembly [of angels] and are pelted from every side, Repelled; and for them is a constant punishment, Except one who snatches [some words] by theft, but they are pursued by a burning flame, piercing [in brightness].
-Q 37: 6-10
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we should avoid to quote religious scripture to prove points.
and also the discussion should be kept respectful and resourceful instead of just bashing each other
 
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in the end like all evolutionists u dnt have patience ...
am i imposing any thing on u ... where did i say such thing ...
isnt it u who is imposing ur theories on me ... forcing me to believe it even when i asked u clearly to explain this complex theory in simple words ... it might convince me ... but instead ur maintaining same thing that being evolutionist ur so elite that u dnt like to teach common people dnt agree to u ... n on top of that ur continuously speaking against religions n God ... rnt u creating disturbance here ...
my discussion is very much related to topic as the question is asked in light of theory of evolution ... to answer the original post ist a beginner like me, has to believe this theory of evolution that cows n bears turned into whales ... possibility of life on other places comes next ...
why ur so offended if i disagree to this theory ... people have disagreements on many things .. half of the world dnt believe in any religion it doesnt mean the other half should be as impatient as ur ... when u dnt have anything to atleast discuss this theory with someone who dnt agree with u ... u feel threatened ... should i not feel the same ...
n about disturbance plz look at ur own posts ... if some one who disagrees to theory of evolution n speaks freely about it ... is it a crime ...
 
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Nauman 360 said:
No offence but you're making a fool of yourself in front of people who actually do understand evoution
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take a chill pill man and stop defending everything against evolution. It sounds like evolution is ur religion, that's why u r hell bent on defending anything that goes against it
 
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