MULTI DmC : Devil May Cry Demo Impressions Thread

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[MENTION=9361]Radical[/MENTION] Don't know about you, but I am loving this new take on DMC. Especially the characters, environment, world paradox; It's brilliant. The first DMC to actually explore the demon lore a bit artistically. I call this a bold, better take on DMC. As far as graphics go, then I never liked DMCs' graphics. I always thought they were too plastic and the lighting and shadowing was kinda poor.
 

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The concept is great but I just like some of the characters from the old dmc too much to let go, just yet =d. Hopefully the full game will make me like this alternate take on those characters more than the old one.

Forget textures & shadows. The highly detailed & smooth animation set from the old dmc puts this to shame.
 
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I also might get this and play it if I have enough cash on me at that time to spare for this...'thing'

On that note, I hate Nero. It's Dante or no one :<
 

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@Radical I am kinda taken back by your train switching. What gives?




Not necessarily. More of a lingering semblance of it. All of the games were artistically, thematically, and metaphorically in terms of demonic lore ... an utter and complete mess. They were garbage in this regard. As for Vergil; the guy was a one-dimensional jackass, and same goes for Dante. Just because something isn't suited to your version of 'badass' sensibilities doesn't mean you should start throwing around undue praise for DMC that it obviously doesn't deserve.

Saying that older DMCs' were not about the stories is pulling away from the fact that they were laughably poor in that regard. 3rd one was somewhat of a decent venture and even that was marred by Vergil's horrible Inuyasha-esque persona. This game actually is trying to bring story into the franchise and you people feel that it's a bad thing? Which 'Personalities' did Dante and Vergil EVER have that I keep hearing about?

Dante was an over-the-top character, a flamboyant clown and that's where his character's so-called depth ended. Vergil was just the same. Your lack of reasoning is ridiculous in this regard. Love DMC all you want, but don't insult characterization by ill-using it for characters that don't have a shred of it to begin with. And better a douche than a jackass that was DMC3 Vergil. That alone is a 'gazillion times better' for me and anyone who even slightly values narration medium in gaming whose growth is inhibited because gamers - like you - don't care for it.
I'm not here to discuss about the story since i haven't played the game i will pass my final judgement about it when i'm done with DmC game. From what i know from the media and demo. This dante is also not so deep you are trying to make it out to be just because he is over the top with his abusive
crap doesn't make him cool. He sounds even bad and wanna be compare to the original Dante. DMC3 Dante went from a transformation the story was pretty simple with a basic plot twist but still it was handle pretty well between the brothers.
Just because Vergil didn't talk much doesn't mean he is bad yes he is something you would see his character from some anime but he has ton of potential. Lets not forget after DMC3 Vergil had alot of fans even more so compare to Dante. I'm not enforcing my opinion on you, discussing story, characters and design is subjective not everyone has a same taste. As far as gameplay mechanics are concern i will point out the obvious flaws in it.

They are plenty of other games i play for story. For games like DMC gameplay is first for me, i don't give a rat ass what they did to Dante and Sparda it's gameplay i want and seriously its not impressive as a DMC game.
 

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[MENTION=9361]Radical[/MENTION] You mean game play? Yeah, it was smooth, but the rest certainly never matched up to it. Everything else was always horrible. I thought Dante sucked in DMC4 gameplay wise. Nero was slick, smooth, quick, and fun to play with. Dante ticked me off to no end. The dude was a tank. Switching over to him was my worst nightmare.

I breezed through DMD with Nero, but had a lot of trouble dealing with Dante.

I'm not here to discuss about the story since i haven't played the game i will pass my final judgement about it when i'm done with DmC game. From what i know from the media and demo. This dante is also not so deep you are trying to make it out to be just because he is over the top with his abusive
crap doesn't make him cool. He sounds even bad and wanna be compare to the original Dante. DMC3 Dante went from a transformation the story was pretty simple with a basic plot twist but still it was handle pretty well between the brothers.
Just because Vergil didn't talk much doesn't mean he is bad yes he is something you would see his character from some anime but he has ton of potential. Lets not forget after DMC3 Vergil had alot of fans even more so compare to Dante. I'm not enforcing my opinion on you, discussing story, characters and design is subjective not everyone has a same taste. As far as gameplay mechanics are concern i will point out the obvious flaws in it.

They are plenty of other games i play for story. For games like DMC gameplay is first for me, i don't give a rat ass what they did to Dante and Sparda it's gameplay i want and seriously its not impressive as a DMC game.
This Dante has a personality, and that doesn't equate to being a philosophically deep character, but a general human-feel to the characterization. Using Abusive words is crass, but that's what the youth of today is like. Like I said, he has flaws, and that's human. This is good enough for me or anyone else who understands the basics of character build up. It still beats throwing out penis jokes at the age of 30. It beats this by a monumental leap. I couldn't stand Dante's fruity, stupid Jokes in 1, and 4.

A character doesn't talk much, and he is not bad? Do these even go hand in hand? Which personality did he have? I keep asking this, but I get no concrete answer from any Vergil Loyalist in return. Just because the fans like something doesn't mean it's good. Twilight is well-liked by millions of readers, it doesn't make it Dickensian, now does it? I am also not enforcing my opinions on you, but don't make false statements. You like him, do so, but don't create things that didn't even exist in previous DMCs', such as story and Characterization.

No. Finding flaws with characterization is subjective, but liking something that isn't even there is blind-fanboyism. As far as Gameplay is concerned, then this is the only thing DMC was known for. And so far, I am pleased. If they do it right, I am okay with it. I consider this facet to be one of the game's assets. If this doesn't even measure up to the previous DMCs', the other dimensions of it look more than decent to up the game's worth for me.
 

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Yeap exactly. This is not as satisfying/enjoyable when you play plus the cutscenes are ugly & choppy.

& yea. Nero is an awesome new addition to the franchise. I like him more than Dante actually.
 

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^ Nero is awesome. I myself liked him much more than Dante or Vergil. They were nothing but generic morons to me.
 

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The exceed combos combined with devil bringer were so damn awesome. You never get bored of those. A treat to watch & experience.
 

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@Radical You mean game play? Yeah, it was smooth, but the rest certainly never matched up to it. Everything else was always horrible. I thought Dante sucked in DMC4 gameplay wise. Nero was slick, smooth, quick, and fun to play with. Dante ticked me off to no end. The dude was a tank. Switching over to him was my worst nightmare.

I breezed through DMD with Nero, but had a lot of trouble dealing with Dante.
Dante sucks in gameplay wise? What did you play the rest of the game with Dante executing stinger move only ? lol, Dante was certainly a beast OTF style switching and his weapons were fun to use he was very much stylish and had depth if you practice enough with all the styles Dante is a whole different ball game.
Nero on the other hand was a great addition with devil bringer and his complete move-set only if they expanded with his arsenal and melee weapons, He would have been much better than Dante. I find your liking about Nero more than Dante funny, he was one dimensional character ever introduced in DMC franchise.


Using Abusive words is crass, but that's what the youth of today is like. Like I said, he has flaws, and that's human. This is good enough for me or anyone else who understands the basics of character build up. It still beats throwing out penis jokes at the age of 30. It beats this by a monumental leap. I couldn't stand Dante's fruity, stupid Jokes in 1, and 4.
I didn't even talk about Dante DMC4 one of the best character if he was acting like clown of-course, actually everything was joke to him in DMC4. He was only there for a simple fetch mission to bring back Sparda weapon that Trish stole. No foe could match him he was unstoppable not to mention slapping around Nero in second battle is enough that he was just having fun. Whats wrong with Dante in DMC1? He was funny and had serious attitude in him, the fans didn't mind his corny jokes which made him iconic character.
DMC3 for me was one of the best character his transition from being a cocky daredevil attitude like guy with no goals nothing to lose hated his father and brother. In the end he realized whats important for him hence he accepted his legacy.

A character doesn't talk much, and he is not bad? Do these even go hand in hand? Which personality did he have? I keep asking this, but I get no concrete answer from any Vergil Loyalist in return. Just because the fans like something doesn't mean it's good. Twilight is well-liked by millions of readers, it doesn't make it Dickensian, now does it? I am also not enforcing my opinions on you, but don't make false statements. You like him, do so, but don't create things that didn't even exist in previous DMCs', such as story and Characterization.

No. Finding flaws with characterization is subjective, but liking something that isn't even there is blind-fanboyism. As far as Gameplay is concerned, then this is the only thing DMC was known for. And so far, I am pleased. If they do it right, I am okay with it. I consider this facet to be one of the game's assets. If this doesn't even measure up to the previous DMCs', the other dimensions of it look more than decent to up the game's worth for me.
If i like something how is that "blind fanboyism?" If you check my previous post i only talk about gothic environment in DMC1 much better than DmC environment and Vergil in DmC looks a douche yes a Vergil in a hat does make him look stupid IMO. You need to ease down a little and wait for a final game it's not like DmC will be something ground breaking in storyline.
 

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Dante sucks in gameplay wise? What did you play the rest of the game with Dante executing stinger move only ? lol, Dante was certainly a beast OTF style switching and his weapons were fun to use he was very much stylish and had depth if you practice enough with all the styles Dante is a whole different ball game.
Nero on the other hand was a great addition with devil bringer and his complete move-set only if they expanded with his arsenal and melee weapons, He would have been much better than Dante. I find your liking about Nero more than Dante funny, he was one dimensional character ever introduced in DMC franchise.


I didn't even talk about Dante DMC4 one of the best character if he was acting like clown of-course, actually everything was joke to him in DMC4. He was only there for a simple fetch mission to bring back Sparda weapon that Trish stole. No foe could match him he was unstoppable not to mention slapping around Nero in second battle is enough that he was just having fun. Whats wrong with Dante in DMC1? He was funny and had serious attitude in him, the fans didn't mind his corny jokes which made him iconic character.
DMC3 for me was one of the best character his transition from being a cocky daredevil attitude like guy with no goals nothing to lose hated his father and brother. In the end he realized whats important for him hence he accepted his legacy.



If i like something how is that "blind fanboyism?" If you check my previous post i only talk about gothic environment in DMC1 much better than DmC environment and Vergil in DmC looks a douche yes a Vergil in a hat does make him look stupid IMO. You need to ease down a little and wait for a final game it's not like DmC will be something ground breaking in storyline.
Nero is better than Dante, who defines the term 'one-dimensional garbage'. Nero had three facets to his personality in the game alone if I am to completely exclude his past; his link with Kirie - further divided into three roles - his relationship with Credo, and finally his status as a demon hunter which is in odds with the cult set-up and then there are further three divisions to his core personality. The funny thing is, you need to keep your eyes open and take your Dante and Vergil blinders off when you play DMC4, because Nero is in no way a one-dimensional character. Not even a snow flake in hell. Your liking or disliking of his character is subjective, but don't dismiss things that are there.

Whatever is there to the game play is my personal opinion. I found Nero to be extremely fast, innovative and fresh, new, slick and the list is long. It was just pure joy to take out enemies and fight bosses. With Dante, it was nothing more than a chore. Sure, you can beat the toad in 40 seconds with Dante or take out the fiery cat quickly as well, but, in terms of enemies...the guy was a nightmare, for me at least. He was just too slow if you compare him to Nero. I at least felt the difference, don't know about anyone else.

Dante overwhelming Nero was no big deal, as the latter had his Demonic energy isolated to a single arm, and still he was able to perform nicely. As far as him having fun; then nah, I would just say the writers had their heads far up their asses when they wrote it. They didn't know what to do, so they made him act the way he did. I was not flattered. Iconic character? Master Chief is an iconic character and the fruity loafer doesn't even talk. There is your example of fan whoring.

DMC 3, like I said, was a decent story venture, and Dante did have a bit of character. Your liking DMC is not blind fanboyism, but you persistently saying that Dante and Vergil are personality incarnates, IS. See the difference? And what is a douche? Seriously, is that all you DMC fans have against this game? lol Dante was and is a complete douche AND a prick at that. You want to go Urban, then at least check the definitions. :p

This may sound weird, but my opinions on games never change whether it's before I play the game or after it. I look at videos, a few trailers and that's it. It gives me an idea about what a game is generally like. There is no such thing as a perfect game, every game has flaws and room for improvement. If the game delivers on art front, gives the characters a bit of personality, provides a decent game play, then it's already miles ahead of DMC, as it's improving upon - even if it's very slightly - all aspects, not just one which was gameplay and GP only.
 

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Nero is better than Dante, who defines the term 'one-dimensional garbage'. Nero had three facets to his personality in the game alone if I am to completely exclude his past; his link with Kirie - further divided into three roles - his relationship with Credo, and finally his status as a demon hunter which is in odds with the cult set-up and then there are further three divisions to his core personality. The funny thing is, you need to keep your eyes open and take your Dante and Vergil blinders off when you play DMC4, because Nero is in no way a one-dimensional character. Not even a snow flake in hell. Your liking or disliking of his character is subjective, but don't dismiss things that are there.
Says you, you are making statements as if they are true in the end. Actually its just the way you see Nero as a character. In the end the story about Nero didn't progress. He wanted to save the girl the end, his relationship with Credo wasn't fully explained except that Nero always had a respect for him as a big brother and thats about it. The only thing was intrigue was his connection with Vergil. You can expand Nero personalities in to two thousand cores in your own little fan-fiction but the truth is Nero was on a little quest to save the girl and he was generic character in the game.


Dante overwhelming Nero was no big deal, as the latter had his Demonic energy isolated to a single arm, and still he was able to perform nicely. As far as him having fun; then nah, I would just say the writers had their heads far up their asses when they wrote it. They didn't know what to do, so they made him act the way he did. I was not flattered. Iconic character? Master Chief is an iconic character and the fruity loafer doesn't even talk. There is your example of fan whoring.
Did you play any HALO game? =p

DMC 3, like I said, was a decent story venture, and Dante did have a bit of character. Your liking DMC is not blind fanboyism, but you persistently saying that Dante and Vergil are personality incarnates, IS. See the difference? And what is a douche? Seriously, is that all you DMC fans have against this game? lol Dante was and is a complete douche AND a prick at that. You want to go Urban, then at least check the definitions. :p

This may sound weird, but my opinions on games never change whether it's before I play the game or after it. I look at videos, a few trailers and that's it. It gives me an idea about what a game is generally like. There is no such thing as a perfect game, every game has flaws and room for improvement. If the game delivers on art front, gives the characters a bit of personality, provides a decent game play, then it's already miles ahead of DMC, as it's improving upon - even if it's very slightly - all aspects, not just one which was gameplay and GP only.
I never said that Dante and Vergil are one of the best personalities in action games history. You are being defensive and showing your fanboyism towards DmC even though the game isn't out yet, it's like no one can even post their criticism about the direction of the game. If you have been looking to play DMC since it came out for it's art, personalities and story. You have been playing the wrong game.
Action games like DMC,Bayonetta and NG doesn't caters a large group of gamers like God Of War does. People always judge these games on gameplay merits FIRST. Bayonetta didn't sell well but it was well received by reviews and is a true spiritual successor to DMC.
 
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[MENTION=23334]sshah[/MENTION]: you should quit when you are ahead or so :p

anyways Nobody can beat dantes Cockiness ! thats that. :)
 

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Nero's persona resembles Sparda's! He's emotional & a lover just like him =d. Sparda rebelled against his own kind to protect the human race. Nero does the same when he goes against Credo & the order.
 

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@Everyone A character that offers so few a lines for his so-called personality is as good as a mute in my opinion. So yes, he doesn't talk in my book. And yes, another example is Jordan Freeman who doesn't talk at all. I think I have gone through this talk vs rubbish talk too many times on this forum to warrant this arrogance. Pay attention to the context of the discussion as it deals with 'Personality'. Otherwise, don't bother.

[MENTION=19507]Magma[/MENTION] Yeah, he doesn't talk. Problem?

[MENTION=237]Black[/MENTION]Basara You should stop, because you are making zero sense at this point. The fact that you are bringing his 'relationship' with Vergil point is preposterous as the game - as flimsy as it was - clearly explained the reason for his devil arm and the reaction of Vergil's sword. You obviously don't know what you are even talking about.

Defensive? Get out, I am merely saying I like what I see, and the game is trying hard on art and presentation front. Which IS a fact. The only person who is posting fanboyism is you. At first you say the game sucked based on game play AND characters, and now you're saying they don't matter because it's DMC? It's nothing but a cop-out on Capcom's part. DMC is RUBBISH as far as the other facets of the game go, deal with it. What is this, the 8 bit era? Everything matters in VGs' today. A game that has 4 installments, an anime, a manga and still they can't get the story right?

You kidding me? A game that requires story and themes to trudge forward presents a laughable notion on this part and it doesn't matter? Guess what, for a man who slips out 6000 rupees for games, to him it DOES.
 
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