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Here are all the rumors and speculation surrounding the PS5, including a potential PS5 release date, power, and launch games of Sony's inevitable PS5. Is the PS5 releasing in 2019?


What we Want From the PS5 Speculation aside, what would we ideally want from the PS5? Backwards compatibility for PS4 games would be brilliant, simply because you'd be able to carry over classics like the Shadow of the Colossus remake to the next console generation. We've seen how well Microsoft is handling backwards compatibility with its Xbox One consoles (including getting amazing results updating Xbox 360 games to run in 4K on Xbox One X), and something similar on PS5 would be great.

In terms of pure power, the PlayStation 5 has to significantly exceed the power of the Xbox One X. This means featuring more games running in 4K at 60FPS. If the PS5 can deliver about 10 TF of power we'd be happy, as this would allow devs to create games that look a generation ahead of what we've got now.

But what would the dream launch lineup be for the PS5? Death Stranding and The Last of Us: Part 2 are hugely anticipated blockbuster games, with the former especially looking to push the performance of whatever system it's on to the very limit. We've also mentioned Ghost of Tsushima and a sequel to Horizon Zero Dawn, and the latter would be the perfect way to kick off a new console cycle from Sony.
 
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Someone on Reset Era estimated usable storage based on current OS allocations:

Assuming OS sizes don't change for next generation consoles, we have:

XSX: 931.32 GB - 151 GB (OS allocation) - 41 GB (Quick Resume allocation) = 739.32 GB usable
XSS: 465.66 GB - 151 GB (OS allocation) - 24 GB (Quick Resume allocation) = 290.66 GB usable
PS5: 768.31 GB - 69.32 (OS allocation) = 699 GB usable
 

Necrokiller

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Only 40 GB of difference between XBSX and PS5.

Not that full 1 TB would've been sufficient anyway. It's all about shuffling/deleting games.
It's taking into account the Quick Resume feature which Sony hasnt announced yet. 41gb is a conservative estimate. 3 AAA games would likely take more.

But for 2020, this is too low. 500gb for base consoles was also too low for its time. I doubt anyone stuck with that throughout the whole generation. Unless youre okay with shuffling /deleting games all the time.
 

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Sony also needs to send out some early units to key people of interest (Keighley etc) to drum up pre-release hype.

MS has been making all the right moves in that regard so far.
 

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The Sony PS5 will have the fastest data loading ever available in a mass market consumer device, and we think it may be even better than you have previously heard. What makes that possible is a fast SSD, an excellent IO stack that is fully independent of the CPU, and the Kraken hardware decoder. Kraken compression acts as a multiplier for the IO speed and disk capacity, storing more games and loading faster in proportion to the compression ratio.
Sony has previously published that the SSD is capable of 5.5 GB/s and expected decompressed bandwidth around 8-9 GB/s, based on measurements of average compression ratios of games around 1.5 to 1. While Kraken is an excellent generic compressor, it struggled to find usable patterns on a crucial type of content : GPU textures, which make up a large fraction of game content. Since then we've made huge progress on improving the compression ratio of GPU textures, with Oodle Texture which encodes them such that subsequent Kraken compression can find patterns it can exploit. The result is that we expect the average compression ratio of games to be much better in the future, closer to 2 to 1.
Kraken plus Oodle Texture gets nearly double the compression of Zip alone on this texture set.

Oodle Texture is a software library that game developers use at content creation time to compile their source art into GPU-ready BC1-7 formats. All games use GPU texture encoders, but previous encoders did not optimize the compiled textures for compression like Oodle Texture does. Not all games at launch of PS5 will be using Oodle Texture as it's a very new technology, but we expect it to be in the majority of PS5 games in the future. Because of this we expect the average compression ratio and therefore the effective IO speed to be even better than previously estimated.

Also, lol @ the idea of shuffling/deleting games all the time. As someone with a digital library of 100s of PS4 games, never since the launch of the PS4 have I had to do this on a frequent basis. Only reason I ended up with a 1TB hard drive in 2016 was because it came with the Pro by default.
 
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can someone let me know if there would be any differences in the hardware (region shit) if i get one from Hong Kong ? Planning to get both the Series S and PS5 from there.....
 

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can someone let me know if there would be any differences in the hardware (region shit) if i get one from Hong Kong ? Planning to get both the Series S and PS5 from there.....
Asian and Japanese PS4s have the default X button action mapped to Circle. Not sure if that'll be the case with PS5 as well, but hopefully there are some accessibility settings available to fix this.
 

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Asian and Japanese PS4s have the default X button action mapped to Circle. Not sure if that'll be the case with PS5 as well, but hopefully there are some accessibility settings available to fix this.
Is that for software only ? I mean i bought the Taiwan region Horizon zero dawn for my UK region Ps4 back in the days and for that game the action button was mapped to Circle instead of X.
 

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Is that for software only ? I mean i bought the Taiwan region Horizon zero dawn for my UK region Ps4 back in the days and for that game the action button was mapped to Circle instead of X.
A majority of games map X and Circle based on their own region independent of the console, but there are some that use the console's region. OS navigation is also tied to the console region.
 
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