XBOX Forbes: Microsoft's Xbox Revenue Is Plummeting, And Here's Why That's Fine

Necrokiller

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1 year old tweet of Industry insider making generic statements without giving any actual numbers
1 year old? lol....so a tweet from an industry analyst should be ignored.

but a latest post from a forum fanboy who cant count months will analyse sales figures and it should be given utmost importance.

 

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1 year old? tweet from an industry analyst should be ignored.

lastest post from a forum fanboy who cant count months should be given utmost importance.



Putting all your chips on a 1 year old tweet from an industry insider which provides 0 numbers and generic 'mid-gen consoles have messed up sales trend' which everyone knew from 2 years ago.

And ignoring this random forum goer who actually gave you the link to Amazon, the biggest retailer in the world, and their best selling page which shows the PS4 Pro as the best selling console among the PS4/Xbox consoles.

https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames



I'll do you one better, Walmart, the next biggest seller and probably the biggest retail-store chain in the US has a best seller section on their website too:

https://www.walmart.com/browse/top-...lbGxpbmcgSXRlbXMie?page=1#searchProductResult

Includes Sony and pretty much every PS4 SKU on the list, does not even have Microsoft or Xbox on there.


But let's ignore facts for feelings Necro :laugh1:








Come to the US Necro, you'll make a great addition to the Republican party
This is some next-level stuff right here. :laugh1:
 

Necrokiller

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Months count ho nahi rahe sales analyse karen ge janab. US mein Zinger party aap sambhaal rahe hain? :laugh1:
 

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Naa bhai analysis nahi karte, na outdated sources use karte hain :laugh1:

Sirf facts present karte hain. Aur kabhi kabhi logic ka istimaal.

Chalo bhai since you've been proven thoroughly wrong and there's nothing much left to discuss here, ap enjoy karo apna trainwreck. (y)
 

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Proves their console audience is more gullible than Microsoft's :hah:
It's the price that has to be paid to play on a hacker/cheater-free online platform. And it comes with freebies, such as the QTE melee featuring cyberpunk game you proudly carried in your signature a couple of years ago :lol:

First is hardware sales the other is talking about PSN revenue.
So, about that 'amazing' game pass success. I got news for ya :lol:

I posted the numbers I found. For both enhanced consoles launch, One X did much better than Pro.
"When launch aligned". That means the actual units sold favored ps4 pro. So the Feb 2018 comparison you found actually showed that the ps4 pro is in the lead.

So that makes just you not keeping your excitement in check, like that kid with the crayon :laugh1:
He didn't provide any numbers in this tweet, nor did he state which platform benefits from the 'crayon coloring'. What he does provide are hardware sales stats that tell us the ps4 as a whole outsells the xbox one as a whole.
 
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It's the price that has to be paid to play on a hacker/cheater-free online platform.
This is why people use the formally accepted method of cheating instead :lol:

Consoles are affected the most it seems. An XIM Adapter allows console gamers to "trick" an Xbox One into thinking a connected mouse and keyboard is really a controller. This allows certain gamers to aim with more precision and use other tricks to execute moves that are impossible with a controller.

This is cheating to say the least, and developer Epic Games is cracking down on it. In a report by Dexterto, the outlet revealed the story of a cheater who was banned from Fortnite for using an XIM Adapter. The cheater posted all the details about why he was banned on Reddit, but didn't garner the sympathy he expected. Many users praised Epic Games for banning the cheater from the game.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wi...y-banning-xim-mouse-and-keyboard-cheaters?amp

Rest assured, if you had ever encountered them yourself on PC you would've made videos for it :hah:

And it comes with freebies
You mean rental-bies :lol:

He didn't provide any numbers in this tweet, nor did he state which platform benefits from the 'crayon coloring'. What he does provide are hardware sales stats that tell us the ps4 as a whole outsells the xbox one as a whole.
That's why you can't assume Pro numbers are higher than One X. Neither did I say that he provided numbers in his tweet. Lol
 
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This is why people use the formally accepted method of cheating instead :lol:
It's up to the developer to block the use of kb/m adapters. So far, only Epic has blocked their use on consoles.

 

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End users paying for online suffer at the end. The use of it is cheating and people use it freely without any fear.
How are they suffering? End users are free to purchase adapters and use them with games that don't block their use, just as those who play shooters are free to get an Elite or scuf controller to avoid holding a controller in the claw position, just as fighting game players are free to get an arcade stick, just as racing game players are free to get a racing wheel, just as players of aerial dogfight games are free to get a flight stick.

Meanwhile, there's nothing you can purchase on PC to even the odds against cheaters. That's the whole point.
 
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How are they suffering? End users are free to purchase adapters and use them with games that don't block their use
Hence, formally accepted method of gaining unfair advantage lol

But just to be clear, if Sony and MS were not charging for online play, there would be rampant cheating on both consoles? How do you explain that?

Meanwhile, there's nothing you can purchase on PC to even the odds against cheaters. That's the whole point.
I dont think anyone wants to play with cheaters. The fact that millions of people play online on PC and some of the most watched Twitch streamers are also gaming on PC goes to show you have literally no idea about online gaming on PC.
 
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Hence, formally accepted method of gaining unfair advantage lol
Just as much as an elite/scuf controller, arcade stick, racing wheel, and flight stick are "formally accepted methods of gaining unfair advantage" lol.

I dont think anyone wants to play with cheaters.
No one said anything about anyone wanting to play with them. There's no choice on PC.


The fact that millions of people play online on PC and some of the most watched Twitch streamers are also gaming on PC goes to show you have literally no idea about online gaming on PC.
The fact that hundreds and thousands of people who play online on PC get banned every now and then goes to show you literally have no idea what you're talking about. Not going to ask for receipts? Ask and I shall provide for some of the most popular online multiplayer games on PC.
 
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Just as much as an elite/scuf controller, arcade stick, racing wheel, and flight stick are "formally accepted methods of gaining unfair advantage" lol.
Exactly. There is no level playing field on consoles either.


The fact that hundreds and thousands of people who play online on PC get banned every now and then goes to show you literally have no idea what you're talking about.
I think actually playing online on PC puts me in a much better position than you to be talking on this subject lol

Not going to ask for receipts?

Absolutely. Show me when YOU encountered a cheater. Surely not a difficult task since "hundreds and thousands of people who play online on PC get banned every now and then". Ill wait. :hah:
 

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Exactly. There is no level playing field on consoles either.
There's a far better level playing field on a closed system, and you know it. You won't admit it though, for obvious reasons :lol:

I think actually playing online on PC puts me in a much better position than you to be talking on this subject lol
Right, you're the only one out of the two of us who's played online on PC :hah:

And even if that were true, it doesn't put you in a better position at all. Facts are facts. Numbers are numbers. They can't be denied.

Post numbers instead of imagining things.
Absolutely. Show me when YOU encountered a cheater.
Nope, I'll take your own advise.

Post numbers instead of imagining things.
But you gotta ask for receipts first :hah:
 
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But you always said cross-platform play is unfair due to controller gamers playing against mouse + keyboard players :lol:

Right, you're the only one out of the two of us who's played online on PC :hah:
Im sure the ratio of our online play times on PC would not please you lol

They can't be denied.
Never denied them. And it still doesn't change that you dont know what you're talking about lol

And ill ask again: If Sony and MS were not charging for online play, there would be rampant cheating on both consoles?

As expected :hah:
 

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But you always said cross-platform play is unfair due to controller gamers playing against mouse + keyboard players :lol:
It is, and even when using a mouse/kb with the adapter, it's still gimped by controller deadzone and acceleration as I mentioned earlier. So, still unfair unless the mouse/kb is natively supported.

Im sure the ratio of our online play times on PC would not please you lol
And with my smaller ratio on pc, I've encountered cheaters on multiple occasions in PUBG. With my large ratio of time spent in Fornite on ps4 with crossplay enabled, I've encountered several cheaters as well.

Never denied them. And it still doesn't change that you dont know what you're talking about lol
Post numbers instead of imagining things.
And ill ask again: If Sony and MS were not charging for online play, there would be rampant cheating on both consoles?
Counter question: is there a console that offers a subscription free online service? This has nothing to do with the subscription. Like I said, it's the price that has to be paid to play on a cheater-free online platform.

It's one of the many benefits of a closed platform (lol EGS).
 

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And with my smaller ratio on pc, I've encountered cheaters on multiple occasions in PUBG.
This is where I need your receipts :D

Counter question: is there a console that offers a subscription free online service? This has nothing to do with the subscription. Like I said, it's the price that has to be paid to play on a cheater-free online platform.
Question still remains the same: how is charged online play keeping cheaters at bay that a free online play service would not? Because it seems to me that you essentially just come up with reasons to feel better about paying Sony. Also explains why you end up playing sh*tty rent-bies (lmao)
 

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This is where I need your receipts :D
a) There's no robust and convenient video capture app that records the last few minutes of your session on pc. Shadowplay often has compatibility/performance issues with several games to the point where I don't even bother using it anymore.

b) How exactly do I prove to you via a brief video shown from my perspective that someone else used a radar hack, a wall hack, or even an aimbot? You'd have to be in the match to know this. It doesn't take just one person to detect them. They aren't always cheating either. That's how difficult it is to distinguish them from an actual skilled player. Doesn't mean they're not there.

And before you ask why I didn't capture a video of the pc cheaters I encountered while playing on ps4, it was because of the reason I stated above. It's too difficult to demonstrate in a video unless you're the one actually cheating lol.

Question still remains the same: how is charged online play keeping cheaters at bay that a free online play service would not?
Answer remains the same: it's not due to it charging for online play, rather due to it being a closed platform. There's no closed platform offering a free online service today ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Because it seems to me that you essentially just come up with reasons to feel better about paying Sony.
Leaderboards are also cool on consoles. I like numbers, as you can easily tell by now :hah: , and looking at the percentage of people who platinum'ed games I play and comparing them with my own trophies is an important feature for me. Steam leaderboards and achievements are easily exploited. Even you admitted to doing it lol. For all we know, you may even have cheated in online games :lol:
 
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a) There's no robust and convenient video capture app that records the last few minutes of your session on pc. Shadowplay often has compatibility/performance issues with several games to the point where I don't even bother using it anymore.
Now it can't even be captured wow :lol:

b) How exactly do I prove to you via a brief video shown from my perspective that someone else used a radar hack, a wall hack, or even an aimbot? You'd have to be in the match to know this. It doesn't take just one person to detect them.
Its not as difficult as you say it is. And since thousands of players are getting banned every now and then, should be even easier to spot.

They aren't always cheating either. That's how difficult it is to distinguish them from an actual skilled player. Doesn't mean they're not there.
Isn't this literally just you imagining that others are cheating without proof? "I got owned, so they were likely cheating" lol

Once again, you failed to show receipts to support your claim.
 
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