Transworld Enterprise Services (TES) - GPON - Karachi, Lahore and Islamabad

arqamovais

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told you so. I specifically requested to talk to their engineer but was told to email and i asked them to call me or even visit me if they want but ..... yeah disappointed . Have a felling i will have to make time and visit ther office. I was specifically told by their chief that peak time congestion is not a problem with them as they are a wholesale provider manage their own cable blah blah
 

jibrangulabbasi

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[MENTION=12507]Joker99[/MENTION]

Do you face high latency after 8 PM?

I do, but it lasts like an hour mostly, and the high pings are between the ONT and the gateway in Karachi. I ran a trace route and while ping to the gateway is normally 25 ms, it goes up to 195 ms during these periods of congestion.

I emailed them about it, since it's been happening only for the past 2 days. Let's see what they say.
We on nayatel are also on that same omantel route and im pretty sure 8pm to 9 10 pm there is massive bandwith choking on that route one of my Karachi friend using tes also experience high ping / packetloss at the same time I started having it
 

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[MENTION=133257]jibrangulabbasi[/MENTION] [MENTION=128859]arqamovais[/MENTION] [MENTION=138674]MS1104[/MENTION]

What ping do you guys get on AWS Singapore servers?
Could you guys run a traceroute as well?

IPs are mentioned below:

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46.137.255.254
52.77.63.252
122.248.255.254
175.41.146.190
 

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[MENTION=133257]jibrangulabbasi[/MENTION] [MENTION=128859]arqamovais[/MENTION] [MENTION=138674]MS1104[/MENTION]

What ping do you guys get on AWS Singapore servers?
Could you guys run a traceroute as well?

IPs are mentioned below:

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46.137.255.254
52.77.63.252
122.248.255.254
175.41.146.190
What are aws servers ?
Battlefield 1 middle East 35 to 45
Seige 80ish on seas server
Fifa fut 5/ 4 bars
I'll trace for you when I go to home in the evening
When my pings after 8 pm goes to shit funny thing is trace stays normal but in-game everything goes to crap
 

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What are aws servers ?
Battlefield 1 middle East 35 to 45
Seige 80ish on seas server
Fifa fut 5/ 4 bars
I'll trace for you when I go to home in the evening
When my pings after 8 pm goes to shit funny thing is trace stays normal but in-game everything goes to crap
AWS is Amazon Web Services. I believe Fornite uses AWS.

I don't play BF1 anymore, but BFV Open Beta I was getting like 40 ms on Middle East servers as well (non-peak hours).

When my pings go insane at night, the trace routes show where it's fucked up, but it goes back to normal eventually so I have to suffer with 400 ping for a bit, and then back down to 110.
 

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AWS is Amazon Web Services. I believe Fornite uses AWS.

I don't play BF1 anymore, but BFV Open Beta I was getting like 40 ms on Middle East servers as well (non-peak hours).

When my pings go insane at night, the trace routes show where it's fucked up, but it goes back to normal eventually so I have to suffer with 400 ping for a bit, and then back down to 110.
yup my ping goes insane for an hour sometimes 2 aswell usually between 8 to 10 pm
the friend i play bf1 and seige from karachi using tes and omantel routing his pings goes insane too during the same time
 

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AWS is Amazon Web Services. I believe Fornite uses AWS.

I don't play BF1 anymore, but BFV Open Beta I was getting like 40 ms on Middle East servers as well (non-peak hours).

When my pings go insane at night, the trace routes show where it's fucked up, but it goes back to normal eventually so I have to suffer with 400 ping for a bit, and then back down to 110.
*silently laughs in PTCL* - when I had Nayatel, they'd hae messed up pings as well on TW1 routes. Traffic within Nayatel would be alright, or if something was accidentally routed via PIE, but TW1? It wasn't in their control (which it isn't). It's at TW1's end.

I read about buffer bloat somewhere else - but that shouldn't happen with fiber/upstream providers and international links.

@jibrangulabbasi @arqamovais @MS1104

What ping do you guys get on AWS Singapore servers?
Could you guys run a traceroute as well?

IPs are mentioned below:

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46.137.255.254
52.77.63.252
122.248.255.254
175.41.146.190
On PTCL (in Rawalpindi), but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

46.137.255.254: 117 ms
52.77.63.252: 150ms (routed via Singapore - I can see it in the trace).
122.248.255.254: 118ms
175.41.146.190: 148ms (also routed via Singapore, according to the trace, but some hops in between are messing up).
 

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*silently laughs in PTCL* - when I had Nayatel, they'd hae messed up pings as well on TW1 routes. Traffic within Nayatel would be alright, or if something was accidentally routed via PIE, but TW1? It wasn't in their control (which it isn't). It's at TW1's end.

I read about buffer bloat somewhere else - but that shouldn't happen with fiber/upstream providers and international links.



On PTCL (in Rawalpindi), but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

46.137.255.254: 117 ms
52.77.63.252: 150ms (routed via Singapore - I can see it in the trace).
122.248.255.254: 118ms
175.41.146.190: 148ms (also routed via Singapore, according to the trace, but some hops in between are messing up).
*silently laughts in PTCL* , c'mon man. lol

So did they get better at it after we shifted to TES? lol, I emailed PTCL support on 30th July and asked them for GPON connection else I'd disconnect in two months time. Got a call from them about a week ago telling me if I had emailed them about GPON, I was like that was almost two months ago and you are responding now? Anyhow, had already disconnected and told them the reason for it being GPON non-availability. Apparently, the ticket gets up on priority or something after 2 months in PTCL system. :confused:

Its a strange and chaotic scene these days at the local PTCL Exchange. I see GPON stuff everywhere in their vehicles. The staff has gotten extremely non-interested and lazy. TES unfortunately does not have a Telephone line so still stuck with PTCL's crappy noisy phone line that no one comes to fix but 1236 AUTO "THEEK HOGAYA HAI" keeps calling several times a day, no one shows up on the door to fix.
 

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@jibrangulabbasi @arqamovais @MS1104

What ping do you guys get on AWS Singapore servers?
Could you guys run a traceroute as well?

IPs are mentioned below:

Spoiler: show

46.137.255.254
52.77.63.252
122.248.255.254
175.41.146.190
46.137.255.254 104 ms
52.77.63.252 102 ms
122.248.255.254 104 ms
175.41.146.190 103 ms
almost 105 across the board on western omantel route of tw
eastern on pie is 10 15 ms higher on pie
checked on our newly 200 rupay wali optimus service :)
 

murtaza12

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*silently laughts in PTCL* , c'mon man. lol

So did they get better at it after we shifted to TES? lol, I emailed PTCL support on 30th July and asked them for GPON connection else I'd disconnect in two months time. Got a call from them about a week ago telling me if I had emailed them about GPON, I was like that was almost two months ago and you are responding now? Anyhow, had already disconnected and told them the reason for it being GPON non-availability. Apparently, the ticket gets up on priority or something after 2 months in PTCL system. :confused:

Its a strange and chaotic scene these days at the local PTCL Exchange. I see GPON stuff everywhere in their vehicles. The staff has gotten extremely non-interested and lazy. TES unfortunately does not have a Telephone line so still stuck with PTCL's crappy noisy phone line that no one comes to fix but 1236 AUTO "THEEK HOGAYA HAI" keeps calling several times a day, no one shows up on the door to fix.
TW didn't offer you landline?

Their sales guy said they're offering landline through NTC, with a 051-9xxxxxx landline number.
 

Joker99

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TW didn't offer you landline?

Their sales guy said they're offering landline through NTC, with a 051-9xxxxxx landline number.
The sales guy did mention it but don't think its for general Home use. NTC can't possibly give Home users the same Government number scheme? plus their Support says its not available yet. Also in the dark about their rates.
 

arqamovais

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You can find the attached traceroutes

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1. Tracing route to ec2-46-137-255-254.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com [46.137.255.254]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.100.1
2 22 ms 31 ms 23 ms host-249-11-249.tes.com.pk [45.249.11.249]
3 22 ms 23 ms 23 ms tw209-static244.tw1.com [110.93.209.244]
4 27 ms 86 ms 26 ms tw255-static204.tw1.com [110.93.255.204]
5 52 ms 46 ms 41 ms 134.0.219.214
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 109 ms 110 ms 116 ms 82.178.33.249
9 115 ms 114 ms 108 ms 52.95.219.70
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 188 ms 187 ms 189 ms 52.93.10.5
13 207 ms 202 ms 194 ms 52.93.11.21
14 111 ms 113 ms 112 ms 52.93.11.20
15 110 ms 110 ms 112 ms 52.93.8.73
16 126 ms 115 ms 116 ms 203.83.223.21
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 109 ms 109 ms 111 ms ec2-46-137-255-254.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com [46.137.255.254]
Trace complete.

2. Tracing route to ec2-122-248-255-254.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com [122.248.255.254]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms <1 ms 1 ms 192.168.100.1
2 22 ms 25 ms 29 ms host-249-11-249.tes.com.pk [45.249.11.249]
3 31 ms 22 ms 27 ms tw209-static244.tw1.com [110.93.209.244]
4 23 ms 35 ms 38 ms tw255-static204.tw1.com [110.93.255.204]
5 42 ms 36 ms 48 ms 134.0.219.214
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 111 ms 110 ms 124 ms 82.178.33.249
10 110 ms 109 ms 121 ms 52.95.219.70
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 120 ms 110 ms 114 ms 52.93.8.166
16 190 ms 195 ms 195 ms 52.93.11.47
17 110 ms 110 ms 116 ms 52.93.11.40
18 109 ms 112 ms 109 ms 52.93.8.115
19 182 ms 115 ms 109 ms 52.93.10.73
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 127 ms 110 ms 114 ms ec2-122-248-255-254.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com [122.248.255.254]

3. Tracing route to ec2-175-41-146-190.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com [175.41.146.190]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 2 ms 1 ms 192.168.100.1
2 23 ms 35 ms 22 ms host-249-11-249.tes.com.pk [45.249.11.249]
3 24 ms 35 ms 38 ms tw209-static244.tw1.com [110.93.209.244]
4 23 ms 27 ms 22 ms tw255-static204.tw1.com [110.93.255.204]
5 38 ms 96 ms 51 ms 134.0.219.214
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 110 ms 108 ms 116 ms 134.0.219.241
10 111 ms 107 ms 116 ms 52.95.219.70
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 237 ms 221 ms 231 ms 52.93.10.23
14 225 ms 242 ms 222 ms 52.93.8.59
15 108 ms 108 ms 107 ms 52.93.8.58
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 111 ms 109 ms 112 ms 52.93.11.44
18 110 ms 110 ms 111 ms 52.93.8.161
19 159 ms 133 ms 122 ms 203.83.223.21
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 111 ms 110 ms 111 ms ec2-175-41-146-190.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com [175.41.146.190]

4. Tracing route to ec2-52-77-63-252.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com [52.77.63.252]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 3 ms 9 ms 14 ms 192.168.100.1
2 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms host-249-11-249.tes.com.pk [45.249.11.249]
3 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms tw209-static244.tw1.com [110.93.209.244]
4 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms tw255-static204.tw1.com [110.93.255.204]
5 36 ms 96 ms 188 ms 134.0.219.214
6 * * * Request timed out.
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 262 ms 177 ms 113 ms 134.0.220.68
10 159 ms 107 ms 108 ms 52.95.219.70
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 268 ms 294 ms 193 ms 52.93.10.19
14 205 ms 218 ms 230 ms 52.93.8.15
15 256 ms 234 ms 255 ms 52.93.8.168
16 187 ms 186 ms 212 ms 52.93.11.63
17 229 ms 276 ms 160 ms 52.93.11.48
18 110 ms 216 ms 201 ms 52.93.8.31
19 218 ms 118 ms 130 ms 203.83.223.33
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 109 ms 110 ms 145 ms ec2-52-77-63-252.ap-southeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com [52.77.63.252]


Pings:

Pinging 46.137.255.254 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 46.137.255.254: bytes=32 time=108ms TTL=237
Reply from 46.137.255.254: bytes=32 time=109ms TTL=237
Reply from 46.137.255.254: bytes=32 time=109ms TTL=237
Reply from 46.137.255.254: bytes=32 time=183ms TTL=237

Pinging 122.248.255.254 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 122.248.255.254: bytes=32 time=110ms TTL=236
Reply from 122.248.255.254: bytes=32 time=110ms TTL=236
Reply from 122.248.255.254: bytes=32 time=114ms TTL=236
Reply from 122.248.255.254: bytes=32 time=142ms TTL=236

Pinging 175.41.146.190 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 175.41.146.190: bytes=32 time=110ms TTL=236
Reply from 175.41.146.190: bytes=32 time=111ms TTL=236
Reply from 175.41.146.190: bytes=32 time=110ms TTL=236
Reply from 175.41.146.190: bytes=32 time=111ms TTL=236


Pinging 52.77.63.252 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 52.77.63.252: bytes=32 time=111ms TTL=237
Reply from 52.77.63.252: bytes=32 time=110ms TTL=237
Reply from 52.77.63.252: bytes=32 time=111ms TTL=237
Reply from 52.77.63.252: bytes=32 time=111ms TTL=237



 

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Transworld dead for anyone else?

I called them up and emailed them a speedtest, and the guy said they're facing some 'backend' issues, and that's causing poor service for most ISB users.
 

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Transworld dead for anyone else?

I called them up and emailed them a speedtest, and the guy said they're facing some 'backend' issues, and that's causing poor service for most ISB users.
Just logged in, have not noticed anything yet.



Phase 5 Bahria entrance, right turn before DWatson, Nayatel did some dig ups again. Hope they didn't or don't end up cutting the fiber...
 

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Just logged in, have not noticed anything yet.



Phase 5 Bahria entrance, right turn before DWatson, Nayatel did some dig ups again. Hope they didn't or don't end up cutting the fiber...
Mines back to 70/70 as well.

They fixed it pretty quickly.
 

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Transworld is finally here in my area in Lahore at last. I placed the order on Friday after meeting up with their sales team. They said you're one of the first ones to pay upfront for the service, for which they'll be providing 2 months free internet. I just wanted to confirm, how long do they take to install the service at premises? I ordered 20Mbps package btw. They did mention 7 working days (excluding Saturday & Sundays), so wanted to confirm with you guys.

Also, I wanted to check in what kind of ONT are they providing to end users? Is it good enough for handling WiFi traffic or do I need to get a better route? I currently have a TP-Link WR841-HP router, which gives pretty decent coverage all over the house. Would it be possible to link it wirelessly with the ONT for providing blanket WiFi coverage?
 

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Transworld is finally here in my area in Lahore at last. I placed the order on Friday after meeting up with their sales team. They said you're one of the first ones to pay upfront for the service, for which they'll be providing 2 months free internet. I just wanted to confirm, how long do they take to install the service at premises? I ordered 20Mbps package btw. They did mention 7 working days (excluding Saturday & Sundays), so wanted to confirm with you guys.
I placed an order for mine sometime in the beginning of August, and they offered to install it before Eid, however I told them to come after, they decided that 24th was suitable and arrived at exactly 11 AM and installed everything within 2 hours and left. Normally they promise 14 days, however seeing as they've said 7 days to you, you'll probably get it in the time frame that they've promised.

Also, I wanted to check in what kind of ONT are they providing to end users? Is it good enough for handling WiFi traffic or do I need to get a better route? I currently have a TP-Link WR841-HP router, which gives pretty decent coverage all over the house. Would it be possible to link it wirelessly with the ONT for providing blanket WiFi coverage?
For 10, 20 and 30 Mbps connections, it's the Huawei HG8245H (Single band), and for 50, 70 and 100 Mbps, it's the Huawei HG8245Q2 (Dual band), WiFi sucks on both. So you're better off disabling the WiFi on the ONT, and just using your own TP-Link router for coverage. As for your second question about blanket coverage, it's possible with a custom firmware on the TPLink router, however wirelessly bridging 2 devices over 2.4 GHz is a bad idea.
 

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You mentioned that WiFi sucks on this, do you mean the throughput or the signal strength?
 

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You mentioned that WiFi sucks on this, do you mean the throughput or the signal strength?
Both. Especially over 2.4 GHz. In fact when the TW guys who installed my connection came to test it, they were only getting like 25 Mbps down (on a 70 Mbps connection), so I said it's cause of the WiFi, I connected an ethernet cable and got a full 70 over a wired connection, so they left. I disabled the ONT WiFi and use my own router instead.

Signal strength is garbage cause it has small 2 or 3 dBi internal antennas.
 
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